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Discussion: Messiaen: Eclairs Sur L'Au-Dela - Rattle

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Post by pacwin April 8, 2013 (1 of 27)
This release TOGE 11096 Messiaen: Eclairs Sur L'Au-Dela - Rattle, EMI Japan is definitely a 5.1 release despite the confusing markings on the disc and case.

It also seems certain that TOGE-11099 Dvorak: Symphonic Poems - Rattle is also a 5.1 release if the liner notes are to be believed. These two join the Mahler 5 as also definitely 5.1, TOGE 11086 Mahler: Symphony No. 5 - Rattle and Holst the Planets TOGE 11084-85 Holst: The Planets - Rattle which are also crypto 5.1 releases as well.

Someone may want to update the records here. I can confirm the Mahler 5 and the Messiaen as correct. The other two are based on the liner note although I am sure the Holst has been reported here as well.

Post by Polly Nomial April 8, 2013 (2 of 27)
Just to be absolutely clear (because I'm sure orders will depend upon this); are you saying that you have this disc & it plays a distinct MCH layer?

Post by Polarius T April 8, 2013 (3 of 27)
I have it, and even though can't verify actual M/C playback on my stereo system, the booklet details clearly state "Multi-ch [text in Japanese] 5.1 ch [text in Japanese]" under artist credits on the first page.

Post by diw April 8, 2013 (4 of 27)
This somewhat of a big deal, I think. These are recently recorded Rattle performances , right? Not from the older ones some of which wetter made into DVD-A's back in the day? If so, maybe more of them are MC?

Post by pacwin April 8, 2013 (5 of 27)
Polly Nomial said:

Just to be absolutely clear (because I'm sure orders will depend upon this); are you saying that you have this disc & it plays a distinct MCH layer?

As I said
"This release TOGE 11096 Messiaen: Eclairs Sur L'Au-Dela - Rattle, EMI Japan is definitely a 5.1 release despite the confusing markings on the disc and case."

I have both discs (Mahler 5, Messaien] and both are Hybrid Stereo and 5.1. I am now ordering the Dvorak double disc as well since its 5.1.

Post by pacwin April 8, 2013 (6 of 27)
Polly Nomial said:

Just to be absolutely clear (because I'm sure orders will depend upon this); are you saying that you have this disc & it plays a distinct MCH layer?

Here's the disc itself also marked multichannel.

Post by Polly Nomial April 8, 2013 (7 of 27)
Thanks!

Post by nucaleena April 8, 2013 (8 of 27)
pacwin said:

I am now ordering the Dvorak double disc as well since its 5.1.

Dear Pac, what is on the Dvorak discs?

Post by samayoeruorandajin April 8, 2013 (9 of 27)
nucaleena said:

Dear Pac, what is on the Dvorak discs?

The Tone Poems, but the performances? Meh.

Post by pacwin April 8, 2013 (10 of 27)

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