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Discussion: Roger Waters: Amused To Death

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Post by rammiepie April 15, 2015 (101 of 114)
Marpow said:

In the new video interview with Roger Waters he talks mainly about the concept of the recording of course.
Towards the end he goes into great detail about the vinyl pressing, admitting that he does not even own a turntable. He talks about how the vinyl stereo sound envelopes you with a great overall experience.

Then he talks briefly about the 5.1 surround sound also being released as if it is nothing, a by product of this whole reissue.

It is disappointing to me that it is very clear the surround sound, or SACD, or any kind of discs that carry a better resolution then vinyl is at least to Roger Waters, the artist, not as good as vinyl.

I am certainly not against vinyl, but dissapointed that Hi Res Multichannel is not getting it's day in the sun.

But you have to wonder Mark after playing boisterously LOUD music on stage all these years (and in the beginning years without any type of earplugs, etc), that their hearing has to be somewhat SHOT.

I know Peter Townsend has total deafness in one ear (or close to it) so for all intensive purposes he cannot even hear proper stereo.

Post by bmoura April 16, 2015 (102 of 114)
fausto K said:

indeed, I see that the vinyl (based on same Guthrie master from analogue tapes) is coming out 24 July. So, SACD can't be far behind. But The Wall would be more welcome.

The Hybrid Multichannel SACD is also due out on July 24, 2015 - the same day as the Vinyl LP edition. No date has been announced for the DSD Downloads of the remastered album.

http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/89110/Roger_Waters-Amused_To_Death-Hybrid_Multichannel_SACD

Post by fausto K April 17, 2015 (103 of 114)
a video interview with Waters on the imminent release of ATD:

http://www.vevo.com/watch/roger-waters/Roger-Waters-on-Amused-to-Death/USSM21500519

Post by current93 June 11, 2015 (104 of 114)
It seems that this Waters release suspense reached its logic end.

Roger Waters Amused To Death Backs In Japan Ultimate Editions

One of rock masterpieces by Roger Waters, "Amused To Death," which was originally released in 1992, backs with ultimate sound treatment and new cover artwork. Legendary recording engineer/producer James Guthrie, who has worked with Pink Floyd for a long time, is responsible for mixing this release with the highest quality recording technology, using the original master tape.

Two Japanese exclusive editions are now available for preorder.

Deluxe edition includes a CD featuring Blu-spec CD2 format as well as a Blu-ray Audio disc with 5.1 surround mix while SACD edition exclusively features special SACD format, using the technology of Blu-spec CD2 on SACD. Both editions feature remastering in 2015.

The label is Sony.
Just ordered the SACD Blu-spec CD2 version. Will it be so good as SACD-SHM?

Post by Marpow June 12, 2015 (105 of 114)
current93 said:

It seems that this Waters release suspense reached its logic end.

Roger Waters Amused To Death Backs In Japan Ultimate Editions

One of rock masterpieces by Roger Waters, "Amused To Death," which was originally released in 1992, backs with ultimate sound treatment and new cover artwork. Legendary recording engineer/producer James Guthrie, who has worked with Pink Floyd for a long time, is responsible for mixing this release with the highest quality recording technology, using the original master tape.

Two Japanese exclusive editions are now available for preorder.

Deluxe edition includes a CD featuring Blu-spec CD2 format as well as a Blu-ray Audio disc with 5.1 surround mix while SACD edition exclusively features special SACD format, using the technology of Blu-spec CD2 on SACD. Both editions feature remastering in 2015.

The label is Sony.
Just ordered the SACD Blu-spec CD2 version. Will it be so good as SACD-SHM?

Alexander we have been talking about the same thing on "The Rock Thread". I think it is cool adding the BSCD2 over the SACD, first time I have seen it I am thinking about cancelling my order with Analogue Productions and re ordering from CDJapan, just cuz it is cooler.

Post by Barbazul June 13, 2015 (106 of 114)
Marpow said:

... I am thinking about cancelling my order with Analogue Productions and re ordering from CDJapan, just cuz it is cooler.

It seems that the SACD is just stereo and single layered as stated in cdjapan's site. =(

Post by cupboy June 13, 2015 (107 of 114)
Barbazul said:

It seems that the SACD is just stereo and single layered as stated in cdjapan's site. =(

I like the single-layer aspect but why would they dump the surround? Maybe Japan doesn't like surround. Maybe it's a misprint. Looks like Sony has a SHM SACD equivalent now.

Post by cupboy June 14, 2015 (108 of 114)
HMV Japan (Lawson) ... some of the text: "SACDとBlu-ray Audioでは5.1ch&"

Says 5.1 in there. I'll be buying the Japan version.

Post by Dead Man July 24, 2015 (109 of 114)
Well I've just emptied my wallet for three editions of Amused To Death, and after pummelling my ears with the stereo mix of the BD-A I have to say I'm suitably impressed and it's been worth every cent. The SACD won't be getting a local release so I'll have to wait while that one's shipped to my neck of the woods.

But my first thoughts on the BD-A? Superb transfer, wonderful spatial sense thanks to QSound, and the legendary missing 2001 sample back in it's intended position at the beginning of Perfect Sense Part 1. A little bit of unfamiliarity keeps us on our toes when listening to a classic like this.

The vocals are very much up front and centre, but that's how the CD always felt too so I'm not going to throw around random accusations of 'sweetening' without a thorough A/B comparison. And when you've got a voice like PP Arnold's to listen to why would you complain?

Very importantly... the dynamic range has been left intact, with lots of headroom for the music to swell (and boy does it ever in the title track!) and fine details to come through. It's always a pleasure to listen to an album which can breathe, and Amused To Death looks like it'll become a benchmark of sympathetic remastering on par with the SHM-SACD of Paranoid, at least in my household.

Initial impressions of the surround mix coming from Brain Damage are very positive, this is the first time after all that the 5.1 version has gone out to more than a roomful of people so it'll be interesting to get some new perspectives.

And in a move none of us expected, but none of us are surprised by, check out this;

http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/exclusive-roger-waters-what-god-wants-5-1-blu-ray-audio-single/

The world's first BD-A single (feel free to correct me, but it's not a format I envisioned for the singles market) with a 5.1 mix and from one of my favourite albums! But also painfully limited and on the other side of the world. Very saddening, especially since the four quid it'll cost customers to buy will be forty on eBay tomorrow afternoon.

Post by bmoura July 24, 2015 (110 of 114)
cupboy said:

I like the single-layer aspect but why would they dump the surround? Maybe Japan doesn't like surround. Maybe it's a misprint. Looks like Sony has a SHM SACD equivalent now.

According to CD Japan's web site, the Single Layer SACD edition of Amused to Death from Sony Japan has been postponed.

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/SIGP-30001

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