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Discussion: Ortiz: Recercadas del Tratado de Glosas, Rome 1553 - Savall

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Post by Joseph Ponessa October 22, 2013 (1 of 6)
In my review of the Trattado de Glosas by Diego Ortiz, I raised the question whether Savall's 1970 first recording of the piece was the world premiere recording. I have since learned that the first recording had been done two years before.
In 1968 the Spanish Ministry of Education commissioned Marcial Cervera and Christiane Jaccottet to record "Música para viola da gamba de Diego Ortiz" and the recording was released as MEC 1002 in the magnificent library-quality set of LPs called Colección Monumentos históricos de la música española. (When I was in Spain in 1980 I picked up a copy of the companion volume on the Cantigas de Santa Maria and carried it triumphantly home. It is truly a work of art.)
There have been four subsequent recordings of the Trattado de Glosas:
1970 Savall
1977 Paniagua
1990 Savall (now on SACD)
1998 Bettina Hoffman (now on Brilliant CD)
I am now preparing a review of the SACD disc called "Ad Vesperas" with music of Diego Ortiz. It forms an excellent companion to the Trattado de Glosas disc.

Post by nucaleena October 22, 2013 (2 of 6)
Joseph Ponessa said:

In my review of the Trattado de Glosas by Diego Ortiz, I raised the question whether Savall's 1970 first recording of the piece was the world premiere recording.

Thanks for the information Joseph. I have this on order and am looking forward to it greatly. Hard to imagine it could be of the quality of the Ad vesperes disc, which is easily one of my top 20 classical HD discs (out of over 2000) but if it is that'd be brilliant.

Post by Lute October 22, 2013 (3 of 6)
What would we fans of early music do without Savall's fabulous performances on Mch SACD!? Definitely looking forward to this one. Nice review Joseph!!

Post by Osbert Parsley November 26, 2013 (4 of 6)
There is another recording (not SACD) of music from the Tratado de Glosas 1553 and the Musices Liber Primus 1565, issued on the Japanese label ALM Records in 2010: ALCD-1118

http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3%82%A8%E3%82%B4%E3%83%BB%E3%82%AA%E3%83%AB%E3%83%86%E3%82%A3%E3%82%B9-%E3%80%9C%E3%83%AB%E3%83%8D%E3%82%B5%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9-%E8%A3%85%E9%A3%BE%E3%81%AE%E7%B2%8B%E3%80%9C-%E3%83%AC%E3%82%BB%E3%83%AB%E3%82%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%80-%E5%85%B8%E7%A4%BC%E6%9B%B2%E9%9B%86/dp/B00409HBO0/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1385517825&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=alcd-1118

The title is: Elegancia de Ornamentacion en Renacimiento, and the programme and musicians are directed by the Japanese Jordi Savall viola da gamba disciple, Masako Hirao. It includes some vocal polyphony too, with apparently some of Ortiz's glosas sung by the excellent choir. A very enjoyable recording, indeed.

Post by Osbert Parsley November 26, 2013 (5 of 6)
Lute said:

What would we fans of early music do without Savall's fabulous performances on Mch SACD!? Definitely looking forward to this one.

I agree.

I just got the disc in the mail yesterday. I had forgotten how incredibly short the playing time is: 49 minutes only - which is a bit disappointing even at mid-price and with the re-mastering. A pity Alia Vox did not combine it with another appropriate Savall recording of Spanish music. However, this is the only quibble I have with it, but I have not had a chance yet to listen to it. I am looking forward to this very much!

Post by Osbert Parsley November 28, 2013 (6 of 6)
There is yet another fairly recent recording of music from Ortiz's Tratado de Glosas, by the Spanish ensemble La Reverencia:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E67IPT6/ref=s9_simh_gw_p340_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1G6E9F3VYYKTESDT5ESC&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1630083502&pf_rd_i=507846

It seems to be available only in MP3 format at present, which should cause not a few sharp intakes of breath on this website! A pity, since the samples I have heard sound very good indeed.

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