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Discussion: Richard Strauss: Also Sprach Zarathustra, etc. - Karajan

Posts: 9

Post by toddao February 27, 2006 (1 of 9)
The opening of "Also" was not "filched", though unlike the other music used in "2001",it was certainly uncredited. MGM and Kubrick were only too happy to credit Herbie but Decca in a monumental blunder refused has they thought it beneath themselves as a "Classical" record company to be so commercial. When Herbie found out (thinking, no doubt, of all those lost sales ), he was furious and his relationship with Decca quickly started to fade.

Post by ramesh February 27, 2006 (2 of 9)
Good review. Thanks for pointing out it has the same contents as the Decca Legends. Will get it now, the question is when. Anyone have any idea whether that limited period Universal SACD discount on Amazon Japan will return?

Post by mystic fred February 28, 2006 (3 of 9)
decca are famous for making monumental blunders...look what happened with the Beatles...!

Post by ramesh February 28, 2006 (4 of 9)
mystic fred said:

decca are famous for making monumental blunders...look what happened with the Beatles...!

Hey, RCA signed up David Helgott. Haven't had many CDs from him recently; does this mean he's back on medication?

Post by rosenkavalier817 February 28, 2006 (5 of 9)
ramesh said:

Anyone have any idea whether that limited period Universal SACD discount on Amazon Japan will return?

They have one? I'd definitely like to know when they have one again. I'll keep checking periodically.

Post by akiralx March 1, 2006 (6 of 9)
ramesh said:

Good review. Thanks for pointing out it has the same contents as the Decca Legends. Will get it now, the question is when. Anyone have any idea whether that limited period Universal SACD discount on Amazon Japan will return?

I stand corrected in maligning Decca and Kubrick, so have amended 'filched' to 'used'!

Ramesh - not sure when the slight discount will come back, not sure I noticed it had gone. A friend also ordered the Karajan DG Tchaikovsky Polish and was highly impressed with the SACD transfer. He is a real Karafan and we are both mystified as to why the Polish was chosen - it's a good performance he feels (I like Haitink's), but hardly revered as one of HvK's very best recordings.

I really recommend the two Universal SACDs of Haitink's and the Quartetto Italiano's Debussy etc, and Kubelik's Pastoral.

Post by ramesh March 1, 2006 (7 of 9)
akiralx said:

I really recommend the two Universal SACDs of Haitink's and the Quartetto Italiano's Debussy etc, and Kubelik's Pastoral.

Thanks, already have the Haitink and Quartetto Italiano's Debussy. Very nice, except for the tape hiss. For some reason, I find the tape hiss in Pentatone's RQR Philips analogue tapes, and the 1960's RCA LS SACDs, less onerous than the Universal SACDs remastered in 24/96 PCM. It's not that the volume is less, but the hiss sounds more velvety in the DSD transfer than it does in PCM. Or it could be Professor Placebo working wonders.

Here's as good a place as any to record an anecdote for Herbivorous fans. An acquaintance of mine, now deceased, became friends with the manager of the Vienna State Opera in the late 60's. He wasn't a musician, and barely knew the difference between Madama Butterfly and Turandot. He marketed fruit. Nonetheless, he had a free seat in the manager's box at the VSO whenever he was in Wien, plus the parties with the stars.
One day the manager drove him to lunch with Karajan at his home outside Salzburg. His German wasn't great. Apparently he wanted to tell Karajan, 'I don't know much about music, but I love your house.' It came out as, 'I don't know much about music, but I like your wife.' The manager explained he came from New Zealand, and Karajan forgave him.

Post by Edvin March 1, 2006 (8 of 9)
Eliette is lovely...and we miss her husband.

Post by mdt March 2, 2006 (9 of 9)
ramesh said:

For some reason, I find the tape hiss in Pentatone's RQR Philips analogue tapes, and the 1960's RCA LS SACDs, less onerous than the Universal SACDs remastered in 24/96 PCM. It's not that the volume is less, but the hiss sounds more velvety in the DSD transfer than it does in PCM. Or it could be Professor Placebo working wonders.

Making a statement of his first experience with DSD a producer has said(accordingly): As they started the playback (of a DSD transfer from analog), i thought analog tape was running when i heard the tape-hiss at the beginning of the take.It sounded just like it, i couldn't tell any difference.

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