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Discussion: Sibelius: Lemminkäinen Suite & The Wood-Nymph - Vänskä

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Post by samayoeruorandajin May 4, 2014 (1 of 12)
Lemminkainen! Complete.

Post by Kal Rubinson May 4, 2014 (2 of 12)
samayoeruorandajin said:

Lemminkainen! Complete.

Yes! Can one hope for Kullervo? (I know there are others already.)

Post by emaidel May 7, 2014 (3 of 12)
Several years ago, BIS released an SACD with Vanska and the Lahti Orchestra called, "The Sound of Sibelius" (BIS SACD 1645). It contains several of the items on this newer release including The Swan of Tuonela, Lemminkainen's Return and in particular, The Wood Nymph. In my opinion, and that of a few others, it's not the best sounding SACD from BIS - not by a long shot - but hardly worth of some of the bitter condemnation it received from at least one member here.

One could only hope that this latest release has benefitted from the enormous improvement in BIS's recordings over the past few years. Any comments Bissie?

Post by samayoeruorandajin May 7, 2014 (4 of 12)
emaidel said:

Several years ago, BIS released an SACD with Vanska and the Lahti Orchestra called, "The Sound of Sibelius" (BIS SACD 1645). It contains several of the items on this newer release including The Swan of Tuonela, Lemminkainen's Return and in particular, The Wood Nymph. In my opinion, and that of a few others, it's not the best sounding SACD from BIS - not by a long shot - but hardly worth of some of the bitter condemnation it received from at least one member here.

One could only hope that this latest release has benefitted from the enormous improvement in BIS's recordings over the past few years. Any comments Bissie?

Ed, and yet your wrote this earlier:

Post by emaidel March 9, 2011 (16 of 445)
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I wasn't going to say it at the time, but once Teresa said she was going to review this SACD, I already knew what the outcome would be, and her review, scathing and negative for all her usual reasons, is precisely what I expected.

I bought this disc a long time ago, and have thoroughly enjoyed it ever since. There is no lack of bass at all, just not an over preponderance of it. The strings sound smooth, sweet and lovely on my system, and the music on the disc is simply wonderful. My favorite track is "The Wood Nymph," which was something with which I was unfamiliar, but am now glad to have discovered. "Valse Triste" is as lovely as it's ever been, and "Finlandia" has all the power and emotion as any I've heard before.

This disc received a glowing review on Classics Today, but apparently, Ms. T feels she's somehow better able to "accurately" perceive the appropriate sound quality of a recording on what almost everyone on this site has determined to be a rather mediocre sound system - especially her archaic SACD player.

All I can say in earnest, is that, regardless of how much I enjoy reading and posting on SA-CD.net, I hope this site doesn't have much power to pursuade prospective purchasers of SACD's. The harm done to wonderful recordings - primarily those on the BIS label - by Ms. T and her few followers would be catostrophic and grossly unfair. Thank goodness for the enormity of international reviews on so many BIS recordings ("The Sound of Sibelius" included) elsewhere. Why anyone here thinks he or she is somehow better qualified to judge a recording than a host of professional reviewers is beyond comprehension. One can certainly disagree with one or two, but ALL?"







Have your views somehow changed on this disc over the years?

Post by emaidel May 7, 2014 (5 of 12)
It isn't that "The Sound of Sibelius" sounds bad but that newer BIS recordings, notably the 7th, 8th and 9th Dvorak Symphonies sound so very much better as do a couple of Rachmaninoff recordings. The Sibelius disc has now been eclipsed by much better sounding discs.

Post by Kieron May 7, 2014 (6 of 12)
"Have your views somehow changed on this disc over the years?"

No.

Still the same fine performances that I discovered in 2010.

Kieron.

Post by chenzl May 8, 2014 (7 of 12)
Great disc but I do find bass (on stereo) rather lacking.

Post by Fugue June 5, 2014 (8 of 12)
chenzl said:

Great disc but I do find bass (on stereo) rather lacking.

It sounds fine to me in MCH. Some labels exaggerate the level of bass drums--they rarely cause an entire concert hall to vibrate!

Post by emaidel June 24, 2014 (9 of 12)
My copy of this disc arrived yesterday. For reasons unknown, Amazon.com still lists the disc as "available July 9th," and Arkivmusic.com doesn't list it at all. I found mine through Presto Classics and paid a pittance (just over $13) for it.

Again, comparisons to The Sound of Sibelius - Vänskä need to be made. I don't deny praising that disc when I first bought it about 6 years ago, but BIS recordings since have trounced it sonically as major improvements have been made. I was curious as to whether the three tracks on this new disc, also on the previous disc, were new recordings or the same material as before. Contrary to what I've read elsewhere, these are NOT new recordings, but recordings made in 2006 and 2007. The three duplicated pieces are however, "remastered for this present release." And are they ever!

Everything sounds fresh and new, with a welcome sense of presence and dynamics. I found this especially satisfying with "The Wood Nymph," which was my favorite selection on the older disc.

Most importantly though, is that musically, this disc is outstanding: Vanska has an innate ability to bring vitality and life to Sibelius' music, and that's evident from the start to the finish of the recording.

Even previous "BIS-haters" should enjoy it.

Post by krisjan July 29, 2014 (10 of 12)
High praise for this recording from David Hurwitz...
http://www.classicstoday.com/review/second-times-charm-vanskas-lemminkainen/

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