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Discussion: Bruckner: Symphony No. 7 - Fischer

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Post by tailspn May 13, 2014 (1 of 68)
I work with Jared, and have had the honor and pleasure of having been able to listen to this recording in multi-channel for more than a year now.

Bruckner to me is like Philip Glass in his weaving of repeating melodies and phrases. He's been a favorite composer to me for many years, after having sat on a beach at sunset in Hawaii, listening on headphones to the close of the third movement of his Eighth Symphony. The cry of those Wagner tubas.

This Seventh also has a movement ending with Wagner tubas, overlaid on a tapestry of strings, immediately preceded by a beautiful flute solo . I know of no large orchestra recording that comes close to the realism and delicacy of those passages.

I can only judge this recording on its emotional (to me) and sound quality/production merits. I highly recommend it.

Tom

Post by rammiepie May 13, 2014 (2 of 68)
tailspn said:



Bruckner to me is like Philip Glass in his weaving of repeating melodies and phrases. He's been a favorite composer to me for many years, after having sat on a beach at sunset in Hawaii, listening on headphones to the close of the third movement of his Eighth Symphony.

So, Tom, Don Ho with his brilliant rendition of "Tiny Bubbles" wasn't good enough for you ;) ?

Post by fausto K May 14, 2014 (3 of 68)
I'll pass. Based on listening to the MP3s, I find this below par Bruckner. This can't compare to the great Bruckner 7's of the past (Karajan, Chailly, Böhm live, Haitink). For SACD, go toBruckner: Symphony No. 7 - Haitink, Bruckner: Symphony No. 7 - Wand or Bruckner: Symphony No. 7 - Blomstedt

Post by tailspn May 15, 2014 (4 of 68)
The previously mentioned on the other Bruckner 7/BFO thread capability of hearing the entire recording of this SACD on your computer still exists. Go to nativedsd.com and find the album under the Channel Classics label. Clicking on it will bring you to the album page where you can preview each of the movements. Clicking the Play arrow the first time will get you 60 seconds. After that plays out, clicking the Play arrow a second time plays the entire movement.

Then you can judge.

Post by Euell Neverno May 15, 2014 (5 of 68)
tailspn said:

The previously mentioned on the other Bruckner 7/BFO thread capability of hearing the entire recording of this SACD on your computer still exists. Go to nativedsd.com and find the album under the Channel Classics label. Clicking on it will bring you to the album page where you can preview each of the movements. Clicking the Play arrow the first time will get you 60 seconds. After that plays out, clicking the Play arrow a second time plays the entire movement.

Then you can judge.

Thanks for that. There are, however, several recommendable Bruckner 7's on SACD and although Jared's sound will likely be better than the others (impossible to tell on tiny computer speakers), most will want to know how this issue distinguishes itself from the others. Hence, a review would seem to be in order.

Post by tailspn May 19, 2014 (6 of 68)
First review in:

Post by tailspn July 14, 2014 (7 of 68)
Two new reviews:

A transcription of Andrew McGregor’s positive comments on BBC Radio 3 CD Review.

… Bruckner’s 7th Symphony from the Budapest Festival Orchestra conducted by Ivan Fischer. He calls Bruckner the guru among composers…the purest and most capable of religious ecstasy. If you’re familiar with Fischer and his orchestra’s Mahler recordings, you’ll be delighted by the spacious nobility of the sound at the start of the symphony, the plasticity of the phrasing, the dynamic control as Fischer keeps the tempo flowing…it feels fresh, and alive. But you have to hear the slow second movement, Bruckner’s Adagio, which he marked Sehr feierlich und sehr langsam – very solemnly and very slow… [01.08]

…yes, that’s the Adagio second movement from Bruckner’s 7th Symphony, with Ivan Fischer and the Budapest Festival Orchestra taking considerable liberties with what’s normally considered ‘solemn and slow’ in Bruckner…! Fischer’s making a point: it doesn’t have to be funereal, trapped in a marble sarcophagus…and the sense of rediscovery continues from the 1st movement, but is it at the expense of some of that timeless grandeur…? The Scherzo on the other hand is wonderfully athletic…let’s hear the end of the movement.

The end of the Scherzo from Bruckner’s Symphony No. 7, with the Budapest Festival Orchestra driving it to the finish with muscular joy…there’s a lightness and buoyancy to this reading that’s genuinely exciting, and the Finale delivers with a sense of ecstatic fulfilment. If you’ve heard one too many long, portentous Bruckner 7s then this is a breath of Alpine freshness, just as long as that brisk Adagio isn’t a step too far for you. The recording, by the way, is superb…rich, airy, detailed, dynamically impressive with no sense of strain…and you could say exactly the same of the playing…and you can hear Fischer and his Budapest Festival Orchestra live when they return together to the BBC Proms – two concerts on 35th and 26th August, live here on BBC Radio 3…


And from yesterday’s Observer…


http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jul/13/bruckner-symphony-7-budapest-festival-orchestra-ivan-fischer-review

Post by rosenkavalier817 July 25, 2014 (8 of 68)
Has anyone else noticed an added hiss from approximately 14:30-15:00 in the first movement? I've listened in both mch and stereo and heard the same thing on different equipment.

Post by mekduk July 25, 2014 (9 of 68)
I am still waiting for my disc to arrive. Will report back once I hear this.

Post by fausto K July 25, 2014 (10 of 68)
...and some critical notes from David Hurwitz. I suspect Fischer has pulled a Järvi here Bruckner: Symphony No. 5 - Neeme Järvi. We hear more Fischer than Bruckner. "He zips through it", and that especially with the 7th! How could that appeal to anyone familiar with the great 7s of the past, including on SACD?

here's Hurwitz's review:
http://www.classicstoday.com/review/fischer-puts-bruckner-diet/

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