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Discussion: Mendelssohn: Violin Concerto, A Midsummer Night's Dream - Chen/RPO/Glover

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Post by Windsurfer March 30, 2006 (1 of 19)
In my review of the Midsummer Night's Dream. I neglected to mention that, unfortunately, it is not the complete incidental music. I would rather it had been so than have the violin concerto on the disc. If they felt the need for the concerto it could have been packaged separately with another concerto - oh well!

Post by Claude March 30, 2006 (2 of 19)
It's possible to edit you own review, if you want to add that information.

Post by DSD March 30, 2006 (3 of 19)
Windsurfer said:

In my review of the Midsummer Night's Dream. I neglected to mention that, unfortunately, it is not the complete incidental music. I would rather it had been so than have the violin concerto on the disc. If they felt the need for the concerto it could have been packaged separately with another concerto - oh well!

Not the complete incidental music to Midsummer Night's Dream? Is the George Szell SACD complete? I have it and it has five movements: Overture, Scherzo, Nocturne, Intermezzo and Wedding March. Is this one complete or incomplete? Oh and the sound is lovely through tubes and an excellent performance.

I am happy with my Mendelssohn solution:
Hebrides Overture, Violin Concerto, Symphony No. 3 "Scotch" - Swensen, Scottish Chamber Orchestra - Linn CKD 216

Symphony No. 4 "Italian", Incidental Music to "A Midsummer Night's Dream", Hebrides Overture - Szell, Cleveland Orchestra - Sony Classical SS 89343

Of course these cost more than Membrans!

Happy listening,
Teresa

Post by Windsurfer March 30, 2006 (4 of 19)
Claude said:

It's possible to edit you own review, if you want to add that information.

By the time I thought about it the link for "edit" had disappeared. Is there another way in?

Post by Windsurfer March 30, 2006 (5 of 19)
Claude said:

It's possible to edit you own review, if you want to add that information.

Thank you, I've now done that.

Post by Windsurfer March 30, 2006 (6 of 19)
DSD said:

Not the complete incidental music to Midsummer Night's Dream? Is the George Szell SACD complete? I have it and it has five movements: Overture, Scherzo, Nocturne, Intermezzo and Wedding March. Is this one complete or incomplete? Oh and the sound is lovely through tubes and an excellent performance.

I am happy with my Mendelssohn solution:
Hebrides Overture, Violin Concerto, Symphony No. 3 "Scotch" - Swensen, Scottish Chamber Orchestra - Linn CKD 216

Symphony No. 4 "Italian", Incidental Music to "A Midsummer Night's Dream", Hebrides Overture - Szell, Cleveland Orchestra - Sony Classical SS 89343

Of course these cost more than Membrans!

Happy listening,
Teresa

Well Theresa, possibly I would like the Szell Midsummer Night's Dream, but I do have a number of his other SACD reissues and the sound of this Membran in multi-channel at least, beats them all hands down! Other than as I mentioned, the fff strings, everything is sublimely beautiful. Further the loud passages aren't all THAT bad, just not up to PentaTone standards, thats all.

Post by flyingdutchman March 30, 2006 (7 of 19)
The total incidental music to Midsummer's is about 58-60 minutes. So, no you don't have the complete incidental music.

Post by DSD March 30, 2006 (8 of 19)
flyingdutchman said:

The total incidental music to Midsummer's is about 58-60 minutes. So, no you don't have the complete incidental music.

Thanks, someday I would like to hear the complete incidental music.

Post by seth March 30, 2006 (9 of 19)
DSD said:

Not the complete incidental music to Midsummer Night's Dream? Is the George Szell SACD complete? I have it and it has five movements: Overture, Scherzo, Nocturne, Intermezzo and Wedding March. Is this one complete or incomplete? Oh and the sound is lovely through tubes and an excellent performance.

I am happy with my Mendelssohn solution:
Hebrides Overture, Violin Concerto, Symphony No. 3 "Scotch" - Swensen, Scottish Chamber Orchestra - Linn CKD 216

Symphony No. 4 "Italian", Incidental Music to "A Midsummer Night's Dream", Hebrides Overture - Szell, Cleveland Orchestra - Sony Classical SS 89343

Of course these cost more than Membrans!

Happy listening,
Teresa

There are three performing versions:

1. Mendelssohn's *Complete* Incidental Music to "A Midsummer Night's Dream." Few people have heard this version, let alone are aware of it. It's nearly 60 minutes long, containing a significant amount of Shakespeare's dialogue, both sung and spoken. Because of this, when performed, it's typically done as a semi-staged production. Some of the most famous music, like the Scherzo and Wedding March, are a bit different than people are used to since there are transitions to, and interjections of Shakespeare's text. (Example: Previn/EMI -- I haven't actually heard this, so I don't know if all the spoken dialogue is included)

2. Mendelssohn took the big orchestral chunks and created an orchestral suite before there was such a thing. It includes: Overture (composed years earlier), Scherzo, Nocturne, Intermezzo and Wedding March. This is the most widely performed and recorded version. (Example: Szell/Sony)

3. I don't know if Mendelssohn did this, but there is performing version which takes the 'suitized' music (mentioned above), and combines it with some of the choral music from the Complete Incidental version. This version is often wrongfully called the complete version. (Example: Kubelik/DG)

Finally, some people do versions 1 & 3 using German instead of the original English.

I'm going to have to write a review of the Szell disc now, as it is some very, very fine Mendelssohn.

Post by flyingdutchman March 30, 2006 (10 of 19)
seth said:

There are three performing versions:

1. Mendelssohn's *Complete* Incidental Music to "A Midsummer Night's Dream." Few people have heard this version, let alone are aware of it. It's nearly 60 minutes long, containing a significant amount of Shakespeare's dialogue, both sung and spoken. Because of this, when performed, it's typically done as a semi-staged production. Some of the most famous music, like the Scherzo and Wedding March, are a bit different than people are used to since there are transitions to, and interjections of Shakespeare's text. (Example: Previn/EMI -- I haven't actually heard this, so I don't know if all the spoken dialogue is included)

2. Mendelssohn took the big orchestral chunks and created an orchestral suite before there was such a thing. It includes: Overture (composed years earlier), Scherzo, Nocturne, Intermezzo and Wedding March. This is the most widely performed and recorded version. (Example: Szell/Sony)

3. I don't know if Mendelssohn did this, but there is performing version which takes the 'suitized' music (mentioned above), and combines it with some of the choral music from the Complete Incidental version. This version is often wrongfully called the complete version. (Example: Kubelik/DG)

Finally, some people do versions 1 & 3 using German instead of the original English.

I'm going to have to write a review of the Szell disc now, as it is some very, very fine Mendelssohn.

Previn's I believe has the spoken dialogue, but I'd have to pull it out to listen. The Ozawa has the spoken dialogue. BTW, it has been done more often than people think.

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