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Discussion: Waxman: Classic Film Scores - Gerhardt

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Post by rammiepie January 27, 2015 (1 of 12)
I had the privilege of owning some of these wonderful Charles Gerhardt film scores on Dolby b encoded QUAD reels back in the day and am thrilled to finally see them available on BD~A 4.0 from HDTT tracks.

For those who are adverse to buying physical media derived from commercially duplicated Open Reel tapes, let me allay your concerns. HDTT tracks uses the finest Open Reel decks available today and are able to extract miracles from these relics.

Am also happy to see them listed on SA~CD.net as this will further encourage HDTT tracks to continue this valuable service.

Post by TerraEpon January 27, 2015 (2 of 12)
I admittedly haven't heard this release, but they offered a free HD FLAC download full sample track of a release I happened to have the recording on CD....the CD -- from like 2000 mind you -- was the clear winner.

Considering the already great sound quality of the Gerhardt on CD, I can't imagine much...

Post by Disbeliever January 27, 2015 (3 of 12)
TerraEpon said:

I admittedly haven't heard this release, but they offered a free HD FLAC download full sample track of a release I happened to have the recording on CD....the CD -- from like 2000 mind you -- was the clear winner.

Considering the already great sound quality of the Gerhardt on CD, I can't imagine much...

there is no price given for this new Blu-Ray disc or is it a disc, not interested in downkloads. I have just played again after many years The Classic Film scores of Fanz Waxman SUNSET BOULEVARD and the disc sounds very good much better than I thought it would sound, then of course I now have a much better Hi-Fi system. My CD was recorded in 1974 produced with the DOLBY SURROUND encoding system.

Post by Claude January 28, 2015 (4 of 12)
Files are the better option if you listen in stereo only and want to use a DAC, since Blu-ray audio output into a DAC via S/PDIF is limited to 48kHz sampling rate, for copyprotection reasons.

That's probably the reason why HDTT includes stereo FLAC files with the BD-A purchase.

Post by JohnProffitt January 28, 2015 (5 of 12)
TerraEpon said:

I admittedly haven't heard this release, but they offered a free HD FLAC download full sample track of a release I happened to have the recording on CD....the CD -- from like 2000 mind you -- was the clear winner.

Considering the already great sound quality of the Gerhardt on CD, I can't imagine much...

The Blu Ray is derived from a discrete 4.0 quadraphonic tape. Your RBCD, as good as it is for stereo, is just that: stereo

Post by Chris from Lafayette January 28, 2015 (6 of 12)
rammiepie said:

I had the privilege of owning some of these wonderful Charles Gerhardt film scores on Dolby b encoded QUAD reels back in the day and am thrilled to finally see them available on BD~A 4.0 from HDTT tracks.

For those who are adverse to buying physical media derived from commercially duplicated Open Reel tapes, let me allay your concerns. HDTT tracks uses the finest Open Reel decks available today and are able to extract miracles from these relics. . .

And the unfortunate truth is that, for whatever reason, some of these commercial open-reel tapes may have survived the years much better than the actual masters have.

Post by rammiepie January 28, 2015 (7 of 12)
Chris from Lafayette said:

And the unfortunate truth is that, for whatever reason, some of these commercial open-reel tapes may have survived the years much better than the actual masters have.

Print through was a problem, Chris, if you didn't play these tapes at least once a year (which I didn't). I did detect a bit of print through at some of the fades on the recent HDTT 96/24 DVD~R of Ella Fitzgerald Sings the Rodgers & Hart Songbook but otherwise, the sound is pretty amazing.

They were also experimenting with different tape formulations and dolby noise reduction before they pulled the plug on commercial open reels. The older acetate formulations were not as robust and used to snap if the tensions on the reels during fast forward and rewind weren't in perfect sync.

But as mentioned above, the Open Reel Decks of today with their superior electronics, state of the art heads and internal wiring are superior to anything commercially available back in the heyday of the Open Reel craze. And some of those QUAD Open Reels are commanding $1K on e~bay........crazy, but true!

Post by toddao February 1, 2015 (8 of 12)
Must say this release has piqued my interest.
All the RCA Classic Film score series were superbly recorded by Decca but this was always regarded as their most spectacular effort.
Presumably recorded at the time of the quad boom it should sound even better on BD in its 4 track guise.
However it should be noted that when Gerhardt came to prepare the first CD releases of this series, he saw the opportunity to add addition tracks-five in all as well as restoring additional music that had been cut from the original release for time reasons. He did this with this issue and the Korngold issue which had been the first in the series.
Unfortunately this sensible idea was soon scrapped and everything was jazzed up in ridiculous Dolby Surround and issued without any new material whatsoever.
This new transfer of course does not have these additions.
I always hoped this series would be released on SACD and it seems this is the nearest we will get.
Will weaken and order it.

Post by Disbeliever February 1, 2015 (9 of 12)
Is the BD really any better than the original CD which sounds excellent on my system. Seems like an unnecessary duplication.

Post by jlk155 February 2, 2015 (10 of 12)
Anyone considering purchase of this or the several other HDTT Blu-ray releases may find the following information to be of interest:

I inquired a couple of weeks ago about format and packaging, and received a same-day response from Robert Witrak of HDTT. He stated that their BDs are burned (not pressed/replicated), and that they're packaged in a standard BD keepcase. He also said that they "have not had any problems with discs not playing or defective ones." He did not indicate which manufacturer's discs were being used for burning their BDs.

A bit of Web research on burned BDs produced a considerable range of estimates about the longevity of such discs. Would someone with expertise in this matter please weigh in on this subject?

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