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Discussion: Schubert: String Quintet - Kuijken Quartet, Boulanger

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Post by fausto K March 9, 2015 (1 of 13)
I look forward to this one. I wasn't wholly convinced of Schubert: String Quintet D.956 - Tokyo String Quartet, David Watkin

Post by Lute March 9, 2015 (2 of 13)
fausto K said:

I look forward to this one.

Definitely! Challenge Classics has been putting out some fantastic performances in beautiful sound. Let's hope this group has built on their successful Beethoven: String Quartets Op. 59, String Quintet Op. 29 - Kuijken Quartet.

I haven't heard the Tokyo Quartet's recording. But...the Auryn's recording on Tacet has been getting lots of playtime over here.

Post by Lute March 9, 2015 (3 of 13)
Here's a documentary on Barthold, Sigiswald, and Wieland Kuijken.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FUlHX8DjJbw

Post by Adrian Cue March 14, 2015 (4 of 13)
Lute said:

Let's hope this group has built on their successful Beethoven: String Quartets Op. 59, String Quintet Op. 29 - Kuijken Quartet.

You’re quite right. I have the Prazak’s on Praga Digitals. In spite of all the logos on the box the sound is stereo and is no better than an RBCD (and not even a good one; the Alban Berg’s are to be preferred). Some stereo only people love the playing though (which is not bad at all) and I’m ready to part with it. I also have the Tokyo Strings, but it sounds ‘muffled’. If we will get the same quality as their Beethoven performances and the sound of the Challenge recording, I’m certainly in as well.

Post by fausto K March 14, 2015 (5 of 13)
and another Schubert St Quintet forthcoming, this one from Channel Classics, by Amsterdam Sinfonietta Soloists

Expected release: May 2015

http://www.channelclassics.com/future-releases/

Post by Polly Nomial April 12, 2015 (6 of 13)
This is good and certainly doesn't suffer from the "reticent cello syndrome" that appears to afflict the Tokyo performance. I can imagine that the Auryn one is worth obtaining as well.

(Many may be intrigued to learn that the K's perform on modern instruments and no direct attempt at HIP.)

Post by ramesh April 12, 2015 (7 of 13)
Polly Nomial said:

This is good and certainly doesn't suffer from the "reticent cello syndrome" that appears to afflict the Tokyo performance.

John, despite the Karajan-esque blend of tone the augmented Tokyos bring to their performance of the cello quintet, it seems to have the 'reticent passion syndrome', at least compared to the tonally flawed but otherwise sublime CD-only Prades Casals performances.

The Tokyos remind me of some critic's comment about the recessed choral sound in Karajan's 1962 Beethoven 9 : words to the effect that it was daring of the record company to bring the Wiener Singverein all the way from Vienna for the recording sessions in Berlin, only to record them as if they'd been left behind in the train station. In this case, the Tokyos seem to have left their passion parked elsewhere, perhaps Kyoto or Fukushima…

PentaTone also have the late 1970s LaSalle quartet with Lynn Harrell performance in the offing.

Post by Polarius T April 13, 2015 (8 of 13)
ramesh said:

PentaTone also have the late 1970s LaSalle quartet with Lynn Harrell performance in the offing.

That will be great to have; it's my general favorite of this work (it will also have the Schumann piano quintet, with James Levine on the piano, in an uncut version for the first time in the digital era -- a big bonus for me).

Another truly exceptional recording of this is the Live Classics one by Kagan, Gutman, Lester & co. (from 1989), but it is so intense and metaphysically engaging as a performance that it requires a special time, place, and mindset for listening. Just like most everything else they have recorded.

But with those two I am happy to live and die without longing for anything more, even if the Kuijkens kind of pique my curiosity as perhaps a more everyday-listening option.

Both of them, moreover, boast more than just satisfactory recording quality.

Post by hanser April 13, 2015 (9 of 13)
Lute said:

Definitely! Challenge Classics has been putting out some fantastic performances in beautiful sound. Let's hope this group has built on their successful Beethoven: String Quartets Op. 59, String Quintet Op. 29 - Kuijken Quartet.

I haven't heard the Tokyo Quartet's recording. But...the Auryn's recording on Tacet has been getting lots of playtime over here.

Like the Auryn on Tacet as well. Great use of surround sound, and some interesting editorial decisions. So is the last bar of the exposition of the first movement only heard the first time, not in the repetion, leading on to the development; which makes sense musically. Similar with repetitions in the Scherzo. Probably Schubert forgot some notations to treat them accordingly (1. ..., 2. ...)

Post by fausto K August 2, 2015 (10 of 13)
great site review by Adrian!
I'm as yet undecided re this one. I'm inclined to agree with Adrian's comparison with the Tokyo, but the latter is not my go-to choice either, purely in terms of performance. Luckily, there is yet another recording forthcoming, a Channel Classics recording by members of the A'dam Sinfonietta. (Although somewhat on the strident side, I'm very fond of the early Channel Classics redbook from the Orpheus Quartet & Pieter Wispelwey, from 1994, which at the time received a Diapason d'Or, -- despite it being a redbook, it's a great recording too, which is not surprising, it coming from Channel (an early dCS converter was used) http://www.channelclassics.com/wispelwey-6794.html

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