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Discussion: Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 6 - Eschenbach

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Post by Steve Steckel June 22, 2008 (1 of 56)
I just received and played this sacd and of ALL the recordings of this piece that I have heard or own this is the ultimate, over-all, to date. Ozawa and the BSO on Erato have the ultimate, in my opinon, third movement. It is a real FIRE-BREATHER! However, over-all, this latest opus from Ondine carrys away the gold, in my opinon. What do I listen for in the T-6 to determine whether it is great, good, bad or indiffrent? First I want the orchestra to sound alive and involved, not just doing a slap-dash run-through. i want the brass to be played fortissmo when called for in the score. I want the percussion, particularly the bass drum in the third movement to blow the dust off my rafters but, with little over-hang. Lastly, I want to hear lots of inner detail. ALL of this and more is present in this recording. For me, this is THE Tchaikovsky 6th to own. I don't like solo piano so I will not comment of that element of the disc.

Post by fafnir June 22, 2008 (2 of 56)
Steve Steckel said:

I just received and played this sacd and of ALL the recordings of this piece that I have heard or own this is the ultimate, over-all, to date. Ozawa and the BSO on Erato have the ultimate, in my opinon, third movement. It is a real FIRE-BREATHER! However, over-all, this latest opus from Ondine carrys away the gold, in my opinon. What do I listen for in the T-6 to determine whether it is great, good, bad or indiffrent? First I want the orchestra to sound alive and involved, not just doing a slap-dash run-through. i want the brass to be played fortissmo when called for in the score. I want the percussion, particularly the bass drum in the third movement to blow the dust off my rafters but, with little over-hang. Lastly, I want to hear lots of inner detail. ALL of this and more is present in this recording. For me, this is THE Tchaikovsky 6th to own. I don't like solo piano so I will not comment of that element of the disc.

I concur. This is Eschenbach's finest recorded performance with the Philly Orchestra - truly magnificent in terms of sound and performance. It is beautifully played and recorded, heartfelt, and devoid of the mannerisms that often appear in his performances. I may be eating my words in future years, but for now I cannot imagine this achievement being surpassed.

Post by Geohominid June 22, 2008 (3 of 56)
Steve Steckel said:

I just received and played this sacd and of ALL the recordings of this piece that I have heard or own this is the ultimate, over-all, to date. Ozawa and the BSO on Erato have the ultimate, in my opinon, third movement. It is a real FIRE-BREATHER! However, over-all, this latest opus from Ondine carrys away the gold, in my opinon. What do I listen for in the T-6 to determine whether it is great, good, bad or indiffrent? First I want the orchestra to sound alive and involved, not just doing a slap-dash run-through. i want the brass to be played fortissmo when called for in the score. I want the percussion, particularly the bass drum in the third movement to blow the dust off my rafters but, with little over-hang. Lastly, I want to hear lots of inner detail. ALL of this and more is present in this recording. For me, this is THE Tchaikovsky 6th to own. I don't like solo piano so I will not comment of that element of the disc.

Steve,
You hit the nail on the head. I'm just about to upload a review. An excellent production all around.
John

Post by terence June 23, 2008 (4 of 56)
is there applause at the end?

Post by seth June 23, 2008 (5 of 56)
terence said:

is there applause at the end?

no

Post by terence June 23, 2008 (6 of 56)

Post by seth June 23, 2008 (7 of 56)
For those wondering, there will be three more Eschenbach/Philadelphia Ondine discs:

Tchaikovsky: Serenade for Strings, Romeo & Juliet and Francesca da Rimini.

Mahler: Symphony No.2

Mahler: Symphony No.8

Post by akiralx June 24, 2008 (8 of 56)
Geohominid said:

Steve,
You hit the nail on the head. I'm just about to upload a review. An excellent production all around.
John

Sounds very good - though it's not a work I particularly like, preferring the 1st or 5th. Very happy with my Gergiev Pathétique SACD, probably one of the best things he has done.

Post by armenian June 24, 2008 (9 of 56)
For those wondering, there will be three more Eschenbach/Philadelphia Ondine discs:
Tchaikovsky: Serenade for Strings, Romeo & Juliet and Francesca da Rimini.
Mahler: Symphony No.2

As many M2's that I have, I will take yet another one if it is really worthwhile performance.
Eschenbach did M2 with Houston Symphony a while back, it was a so-so performance, nothing special, the electric organ used at the end really sounded silly, hope his new performance is a bit better than the Houston performance.

Vahe

Post by seth June 24, 2008 (10 of 56)
armenian said:

As many M2's that I have, I will take yet another one if it is really worthwhile performance.
Eschenbach did M2 with Houston Symphony a while back, it was a so-so performance, nothing special, the electric organ used at the end really sounded silly, hope his new performance is a bit better than the Houston performance.

Vahe

I attended one of the performances taped for the recording and thought it was excellent.

But what I've learned from these Ondine releases, is that the resulting recordings do not always reflect what I heard live. For instance, the performances of the Shostakovich 5 were well received by audiences and critics, but the recording is so-so. And with the Tchaikovsky 6, I thought the performance was extremely boring, but the recording is a totally different experience.

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