Thread: bach cello suites, suzuki or lipkind?

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Post by diw September 12, 2008 (1 of 15)
Quick question: should I purchase the suzuki or lipkind version? Anyone had a chance to compare them? One of the reviews makes a quck comment that suzuki sounds better than lipkind in MC. Is this true? This would be of importance to me, since that's how I would listen to it.

Post by MichaelO September 12, 2008 (2 of 15)
diw said:

Quick question: should I purchase the suzuki or lipkind version? Anyone had a chance to compare them? One of the reviews makes a quck comment that suzuki sounds better than lipkind in MC. Is this true? This would be of importance to me, since that's how I would listen to it.

Hi diw:

Haven't heard the Lipkind, but have the Suzuki. I can highly recommend this recording. Great sound, very natural. From the reviews these two readings seem to be at polar extremes of each other. Lipkind very individual and somewhat idiosyncratic. Suzuki a more historically informed approach. It all depends on what approach appeals to you. I have read some negitive reviews of the the Lipkind, but I am not certain where. As I recall someone thought he was too wayward in his readings.

Good luck

Michael

Post by Beagle September 12, 2008 (3 of 15)
Like Michael, I haven't heard the Lipkind, but I thoroughly recommend the Suzuki. I have five sets of these works, and the Suzuki is my (current) favourite. The baroque tuning, like a new way to ascend Mt Everest, allows an entirely fresh hearing these works. However, if this is your FIRST recording of the cello suites, I would recommend the Janos Starker as a foundation -- and as a collector's item.

Post by diw September 12, 2008 (4 of 15)
I have the Starker, I was looking at a MC version.

By the way, Amazon is very strange. Amazon.com wants $80 for the Suzuki with no other sellers. Amazon.fr will sell a copy from caiman for 20 Euro, but will ship it to me from Florida with shipping rates as if it came from Europe!

Post by MichaelO September 13, 2008 (5 of 15)
diw said:

I have the Starker, I was looking at a MC version.

By the way, Amazon is very strange. Amazon.com wants $80 for the Suzuki with no other sellers. Amazon.fr will sell a copy from caiman for 20 Euro, but will ship it to me from Florida with shipping rates as if it came from Europe!

Hi diw:

If you decide on the Suzuki it would probably be better to order it from HMV Japan.

Michael

Post by diw September 13, 2008 (6 of 15)
Actually, it is cheaper from Europe than Japan. I was trying to listen to some snippets of both last night from the jpc site, it seemed like the Suzuki had lots of extraneous noises. Breathing or bow noises? Hard to tell when your listening to your laptop. I'll have to try again with headphones tonight.

I just don't get why caiman will sell it on Amazon.fr or .de, but .com?

Post by Beagle September 13, 2008 (7 of 15)
diw said: lots of extraneous noises
Un petit soupçon of instrument sound proves you really are listening to high fidelity. As the husband of a cellist, let me assure you that the noises aren't really extraneous: they are a necessary part of getting music out of a great big fiddle; those great thumping strings don't get off their duff and WORK unless properly urged.

Post by diw September 14, 2008 (8 of 15)
I have been listening to samples on jpc with headphones now and agree with that. It is interesting listening to both. Lipkind's instrument seems to sound "richer" with a fuller bottom end, Suzuki clearly has more sense of the room in which the recording was made. It's about mike placement as usual, I suppose.

Post by Geir September 15, 2008 (9 of 15)
I've been listening quite a lot to Lipkind both in stereo and in Mch, and for one thing I find the way he plays the cello to be in the very top league regardless of music or instrument of choice. As for the recorded sound it's as rich and detailed as his playing, and I don't miss any more "sense of room", certainly not in MCH, in stereo maybe, but then that's stereo for you.
I have not had the chance to compare to Suzuki, but if it's even half as good as Lipkind, I'd recommend that too :)

Post by LivyII September 15, 2008 (10 of 15)
Geir said:

I've been listening quite a lot to Lipkind both in stereo and in Mch, and for one thing I find the way he plays the cello to be in the very top league regardless of music or instrument of choice. As for the recorded sound it's as rich and detailed as his playing, and I don't miss any more "sense of room", certainly not in MCH, in stereo maybe, but then that's stereo for you.
I have not had the chance to compare to Suzuki, but if it's even half as good as Lipkind, I'd recommend that too :)

Ostertag on Coviello is the recording to hear.

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