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Discussion: Dvorak: Symphony No. 9 - Jansons

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Post by jdaniel@jps.net November 7, 2004 (1 of 15)
How does this one compare with Fischer's with same orchestra? I like the Fischer, though the orchestra is pretty up-close. Is the Jansons' more distant? Fischer takes the 2nd mov't a little more 'flowingly' than I like. Is Jansons' slower?

Post by flyingdutchman November 7, 2004 (2 of 15)
jdaniel@jps.net said:

How does this one compare with Fischer's with same orchestra? I like the Fischer, though the orchestra is pretty up-close. Is the Jansons' more distant? Fischer takes the 2nd mov't a little more 'flowingly' than I like. Is Jansons' slower?

I have both and will do a comparison tomorrow.

Post by nickc November 7, 2004 (3 of 15)
jdaniel@jps.net said:

How does this one compare with Fischer's with same orchestra? I like the Fischer, though the orchestra is pretty up-close. Is the Jansons' more distant? Fischer takes the 2nd mov't a little more 'flowingly' than I like. Is Jansons' slower?

Hi John
for me the highlight of Fischer's disc is the 8th.; what a lovely symphony! Now that the BFO are with Channel I hope they record my favourite Dvorak symphony, the 7th. (maybe coupled with the 5th.?)
Cheers
Nick

Post by Dinko November 8, 2004 (4 of 15)
I never thought I'd say this about a Jansons recording, but his Dvorak 9th is boring me to tears.
The Royal Concertgebouw is as glorious as ever, the sound is nice and warm, but where I found Fischer's Dvorak to be fresh and exciting, I find Jansons' to be tired and unremarkable. As for the slow movement, I think Jansons is about half a minute slower than Fischer.

Post by Daland November 8, 2004 (5 of 15)
jdaniel@jps.net said:

How does this one compare with Fischer's with same orchestra? I like the Fischer, though the orchestra is pretty up-close. Is the Jansons' more distant? Fischer takes the 2nd mov't a little more 'flowingly' than I like. Is Jansons' slower?

Jansons conducts the Concertgebouw, Fischer the Budapest Festival Orchestra. I have never warmed to Fischer's interpretation of either the 8th or 9th Symphony. I find his approach too bland and the overall effect slightly synthetic (conductors like Szell and Bernstein are much more idiomatic) even though the sound can hardly be faulted (it is a genuine DSD recording). My first impression was: well played, but not distinctive.

The Jansons disc has a playing time of just over 40 minutes, which is short measure. But the price I paid here in Germany (14 EUR) was well below that of a premium SACD (about 20 EUR). If there were no stick-on label on the disc you would need a magnifying glass to find out this is a Super Audio CD. There is only a tiny piece of information saying "5.1 surround" on the back cover. This SACD sounds like a genuine DSD recording, too.

The recording is magnificent in both sonic and interpretative terms. The tempi are very similar to the Fischer disc except that Jansons tends to take the lyrical passages more slowly and the fast passages at a brisker pace, especially in the first movement. Where Fischer is only loud and brutal (e.g. at the beginning of the final movement), Janson is much more sophisticated in his handling of the orchestra. The woodwind in particular are a delight. But the strings and brass are also notable for their warm, natural sound. Although this is a "live recording" there is no applause at the end of the performance. I am now looking forward to "Ein Heldenleben" on the same label.

Post by flyingdutchman November 8, 2004 (6 of 15)
I think Jansons skips the first movement exposition repeat.

Post by Kal Rubinson July 10, 2015 (7 of 15)
Luukas wrote:
"It is at the same time my first SACD of Dvorak's Ninth."

"This is perhaps the best Dvorak's Ninth on disc.........."

How can one suggest that it is the best on disc when admitting one has not heard any of the other SACD versions?

Post by Chris July 10, 2015 (8 of 15)
Kal Rubinson said:

Luukas wrote:
"It is at the same time my first SACD of Dvorak's Ninth."

"This is perhaps the best Dvorak's Ninth on disc.........."

How can one suggest that it is the best on disc when admitting one has not heard any of the other SACD versions?

Maybe because he is young and obviously likes almost every SACD he hears?

Post by Simon V. July 10, 2015 (9 of 15)
Chris said:

Maybe because he is young and obviously likes almost every SACD he hears?

And some he hasn't!

Post by Euell Neverno July 10, 2015 (10 of 15)
Kal Rubinson said:

Luukas wrote:
"It is at the same time my first SACD of Dvorak's Ninth."

"This is perhaps the best Dvorak's Ninth on disc.........."

How can one suggest that it is the best on disc when admitting one has not heard any of the other SACD versions?

Some people just know these things

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