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Discussion: Sibelius: Symphonies Nos. 3 & 7 - Colin Davis

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Post by audio-grubi February 16, 2005 (11 of 23)
brenda said:

dear a-g,
yes, I hear the same thing and yes, it' a real pain (especially as it affects both sessions) but not as much of a pain as the overall sound quality, which is poor, and, as Dutchman says, nowhere near the quality of my much loved vinyl set of Davis and the BSO. Had similar disappointment with the Brahms 3 and Serenade on LSO Live and resolved not to buy any more LSO live recordings. And yes, as other users have commented, I too love the sound that Chandos have been able to give the LSO, so it' not just the Barbican. Such a shame.

Hi dear "brenda",

yes, you're right, it affects both recording sessions.

I've contacted the German distributor of LSOlive by phone last week and told him about the terrible sound of the multichannel track at this record and the discussion here. He told me that he got now complaints like this until this time but he will contact the company and propably it was a problem of the mastering.

It seems, that I'm more satisfied with the recording of Brahms 3rd symphonie, than you. :-))
But did you heard the new recording of the first symphonie (plus tragic and academic festval overture) by Marin Alsop and the LPO made by NAXOS? In my opinion it's so fantastic and so I've wrote a review.

Dear greetings

Lothar

Post by audio-grubi February 16, 2005 (12 of 23)
mandel said:

Just giving it a listen now... Turned the fronts off and turned my amp to full. Yes there is a crackle in the right surround channel, bad connection to a mic somewhere I guess. It's quiet enough to not be a major issue in my opinion. Shame nobody realised before they recorded the 7th a few days later...

Dear "mandel",

I'm really surprised about, that you wrote "It's quiet enough to not be a major issue in my opinion.", 'cause I hear it really loude and clear with my equipment from the first listening. For me it's really painfull and I'm afraid about the tweeter in the right rear speaker. Are you sure, that all your speakers are at the same sound level?

Post by Ken_P February 16, 2005 (13 of 23)
audio-grubi said:

Dear "mandel",

I'm really surprised about, that you wrote "It's quiet enough to not be a major issue in my opinion.", 'cause I hear it really loude and clear with my equipment from the first listening. For me it's really painfull and I'm afraid about the tweeter in the right rear speaker. Are you sure, that all your speakers are at the same sound level?

Let me just say upfront that I don't have what anybody would consider a high end system. I did the best I could do within my budget, which was extremely limited, but I'm fairly happy with what I've got right now.

That being said, I just did a quick check to see if I could hear the same problem with the right rear channel, and I hear nothing. I turned off the fronts and the left rear, and cranked up the voulme with just the right, and I didn't hear even a hint of a problem. I guess it's possible that my system isn't sensitive enough for the problem to be obvious, but I thought I would at least hear some indication of this problem. I know that I have very good ears and would be able to pick something out if it were there.

Post by mandel February 16, 2005 (14 of 23)
audio-grubi> That is rather suprising. If I turn my fronts off (this disc has no centre channel) and put my amp to 0db it's distracting, like a record with a fair amount of surface noise. On the other hand, at that volume I can here all sorts of other background noises like coughing clearly. Very odd...

Post by tream February 16, 2005 (15 of 23)
Oddly enough, Kalman Rubison recommends this highly in the latest issue (March) of Stereophile. It would be great for LSO Live to weigh in on this issue -are these a batch of defective discs or is something else happening.

Post by brenda February 17, 2005 (16 of 23)
audio-grubi said:..... did you heard the new recording of the first symphonie (plus tragic and academic festval overture) by Marin Alsop and the LPO made by NAXOS?
dear Lothar, havent heard the Naxos recording yet, so was interested in your review. I'll give it a try, but tell me, what did you think of the Bychkov set?
regards, brenda

Post by audio-grubi February 20, 2005 (17 of 23)
brenda said:

dear Lothar, havent heard the Naxos recording yet, so was interested in your review. I'll give it a try, but tell me, what did you think of the Bychkov set?
regards, brenda

Well, it’s done and I wrote a review about the Brahms symphonies by Semyon Bychkov and the WDR symphony-orchestra Cologne.
But I have to say it’s always a hard work to me to write it in English and I wish I could do it in German. So excuse my terrible and primitive English, please!

I’m also neither an expert for classical music nor a music critic. What I’m always recognize in the first moment while listening a recording are differences in sound. So I tried to do my best with the new review!

Post by Castor February 20, 2005 (18 of 23)
audio-grubi said:


But I have to say it’s always a hard work to me to write it in English and I wish I could do it in German. So excuse my terrible and primitive English, please!

I’m also neither an expert for classical music nor a music critic. What I’m always recognize in the first moment while listening a recording are differences in sound. So I tried to do my best with the new review!

Lothar,
You have no need to apologise for your English! I found your review to be detailed, most informative and a pleasure to read.
Mit freundlichen Grüssen aus England
Castor

Post by nickc February 20, 2005 (19 of 23)
audio-grubi said:

Well, it’s done and I wrote a review about the Brahms symphonies by Semyon Bychkov and the WDR symphony-orchestra Cologne.
But I have to say it’s always a hard work to me to write it in English and I wish I could do it in German. So excuse my terrible and primitive English, please!

I’m also neither an expert for classical music nor a music critic. What I’m always recognize in the first moment while listening a recording are differences in sound. So I tried to do my best with the new review!

Hi audio-grubi!
I also think your reviews are excellent - keep them coming! I was interested to hear the the first movement of the Third was a minute and a half faster than Haitink - as I reported in my review I found his perfomance just too slow for me.
Cheers
Nick

Post by Ken_P February 20, 2005 (20 of 23)
Am I the only one who actually likes the Haitink/LSO recording of the Brahms 3? Yes, the tempi are a bit on the slow side and it's not really a "traditonal" reading, but I think the more laid back approach is interesting and effective. Is it going to be a definative performance of the work, no, but I still think it's a worthy performance.

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