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Discussion: Piazzolla: Tango, Zero Hour

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Post by Claude January 26, 2010 (1 of 7)
I'm using this disc link to start a discussion on the SACD reissues of the three important albums Astor Piazzolla recorded for American Clavé in the late 80's, which are considered his final legacy (he died in 1992).

Piazzolla: Tango, Zero Hour
Piazzolla: La Camorra
Piazzolla: The Rough Dancer and The Cyclical Night

The label has some info in English: http://www.ewe.co.jp/astor_piazzolla_crystal_disc/

"re-mastered by Greg Calbi (Sterling Sound, NYC)"

release dates:

12.24. 2009 ASTOR PIAZZOLLA The Rough Dancer And The Cyclical Night (ewsac1019)
02.10. 2010 ASTOR PIAZZOLLA Tango: Zero Hour (ewsac 1013)
02.10. 2010 ASTOR PIAZZOLLA La Camorra (ewsac 1021)

In addition to the hybrid SACDs, the albums will also be released on "crystal Disc", "a revolutionary Compact Disc using glass substrate, this new technology allows sound reproduction at a level previously unknown and is as close to the master sound source as cutting edge technology allows. Handmade to order by Memory-Tech."

So make sure you order the right ones, or you'll get silly-named extremely expensive CDs ...

Post by TerraEpon January 26, 2010 (2 of 7)
Mastered in New York, but apparently Japanese only issues.

Yeesh. I'd get both Zero Hour and Cyclical Night to replace my RBCDs if they had reasonable pricing...

Post by SteelyTom October 2, 2014 (3 of 7)
How do these Piazzola SACDs sound? Were they (or was Tango: Zero Hour, at least) recorded to analogue tape?

The albums themselves are stone classics, of course…..

Post by undertone October 2, 2014 (4 of 7)
Credits on the 1998 Nonesuch CD indicate that it was recorded in May 1986 at Sound Ideas Studio, NYC by John Fausty. No further description of the recording medium. Kip Hanrahan's productions from the '80s and '90s all have very high quality sound and artistic merit. If Tango: Zero Hour was recorded and mixed to analogue, I hope that the stereo master tape was used for the SACD release.

There is a remarkable recent SACD of Piazzolla's works that I can recommend: Piazzolla: Tango! - Isabelle van Keulen Ensemble. Isabelle Van Keulen's ensemble emulates Piazzolla's own preferred quintet; she uses the same instrumentation, minus guitar.

Post by SteelyTom February 14, 2015 (5 of 7)
At the risk of being a pest, I'm bumping this thread-- does anyone have a sense whether the Piazzola SACDs, originally on American Clave, are sourced from 16/44.1 digital or from analogue? I love the records, but I don't want to pay for a non-upgrade upgrade…..

Post by Polarius T February 14, 2015 (6 of 7)
Apparently from analog. In the liner notes the producer (Kip Hanrahan) talks about his "re-masterings" for these 2010 reissues on SACD, going at lengths to describe how "The second exhilarating suprise was in HEARING the new digital technology's [which I take to be DSD/SACD] transformation of the analogue recordings," praising over and over again what this "new digital technology" could accomplish with the original recordings now, more than 20 years after those recordings had been made (while digital had always sucked up until then).

Post by SteelyTom February 14, 2015 (7 of 7)
Polarius T said:

Apparently from analog. In the liner notes the producer (Kip Hanrahan) talks about his "re-masterings" for these 2010 reissues on SACD, going at lengths to describe how "The second exhilarating suprise was in HEARING the new digital technology's [which I take to be DSD/SACD] transformation of the analogue recordings," praising over and over again what this "new digital technology" could accomplish with the original recordings now, more than 20 years after those recordings had been made (while digital had always sucked up until then).

Wow, thanks for the detective work! Hanrahan's label always produced well-recorded music (including the redbook Piazzola issues), so his remarks carry significant weight.

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