Post by gunkie2k April 14, 2010 (1 of 23)
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Post by akiralx April 14, 2010 (2 of 23)
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The Kleiber is good but the Karajan is an odd choice, not one of his better recordings. Why not his Strauss or Sibelius?
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Post by Chris April 15, 2010 (3 of 23)
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So this is where SACD is really heading when one label after the other is abandoning SACD? Though obviously not LINN.
Esoteric comes to the rescue at a PRICE:SUPER EXPENSIVE remasters from 24/96 PCM digital copies of analogue mastertapes?
119 dollars for something you could pick up in a second hand shop for 10-15 dollars or less as original LPs?
I wonder what will happen to Esoteric´s business concept, when Universal too realizes there is money to be made in releasing those 24/96 masters as hi rez downloads?
Anyway:I still have the original LPs in my collection.
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Post by hiredfox April 15, 2010 (4 of 23)
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Hope they issue the Kertesz/LSO Dvorak cycle, which has been a front runner for 50 years.
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Post by Claude April 15, 2010 (5 of 23)
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Chris said:
I wonder what will happen to Esoteric´s business concept, when Universal too realizes there is money to be made in releasing those 24/96 masters as hi rez downloads?
The difference between small and big companies is that the big ones only bother about offering new products or services when there is A LOT of money to be made.
The big labels could easily take over the business of small audiophile labels, by hiring the best mastering engineers and selling $30 SACDs, but they don't care because the audiophile market is too small.
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Chris said:
So this is where SACD is really heading when one label after the other is abandoning SACD? Though obviously not LINN.
obviously not Linn and Universal Japan.
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Post by tream April 15, 2010 (7 of 23)
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akiralx said:
The Kleiber is good but the Karajan is an odd choice, not one of his better recordings. Why not his Strauss or Sibelius?
I suspect that the Lehar would be a big hit in Japan and is likely considered to be a more important recording there than in the West.
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I am trepidatious that Teac~Esoteric's pricing is going to set a dangerous precedent for all future re~issues and will no doubt be a deterrent to newbies dipping their feet in the SACD landscape. Insanely priced, these releases will no doubt find their mark. Even Analogue Productions upcoming Nat King Cole Story (a 2 SACD set), mastered from the original three~track analogue master tapes and utilizing the Grimm Audio converter is listed at US $65....which seems like a virtual bargain considering the painstaking work which went into it. Greed seems boundless. When one can purchase an OPPO BDP~83 Universal player for US $499, if one does the math that is 7 Teac~Esoteric 96/24 SACDs. Knock yourselves out!
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Post by feinstei April 15, 2010 (9 of 23)
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I have purchased all of the Esoteric SACD's (including the Ring Cycle). When I was informed that they deceptively and sneakily falsely advertised (or inferred strongly) that their SACD's were mastered from the analogue 2 track masters, I have sworn off of anything that Esoteric tries pawn off on unsuspecting audiophiles.
Another suspicion... The Ring Cycle, as currently released on CD by Decca/Polygram is hideously noise reduced. Are the Esoteric SACD's that I paid $725 for also from the same crushed, noise reduced masters?????
I urge others to boycott Esoteric until they HONESTLY and FORTHRIGHTLY disclose the EXACT source that they've used for their overpriced releases.
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Post by Jonty April 15, 2010 (10 of 23)
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feinstei said:
from the same crushed, noise reduced masters?????
Esoteric state that Universal made new 24/96 transfers for them. You can believe them or not. I do.
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