Post by zeus May 11, 2005 (31 of 43)
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Goodwood said:
I've been watching the highfidelityreview web site for a while and I'm constantly depressed at the frequency of new disc announcements. These days we're lucky to get one every 2 weeks. Aaaaargh!
Only a small subset of new discs are/were ever announced on HFR.
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Post by Goodwood May 12, 2005 (32 of 43)
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zeus said:
Only a small subset of new discs are/were ever announced on HFR.
OK now I'm just a little less depressed!
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Post by martok May 31, 2005 (33 of 43)
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Post by zeus May 31, 2005 (34 of 43)
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Post by Binder May 31, 2005 (35 of 43)
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I expect this to be a tour-de-force for surround sound demo.
What does one mean by this? Guitars from the rear? I saw them live in Detroit many years ago. I seem to remember all the musicians in front, room ambience in the rear. Replicate reality and I'm good to go with multi-channel. Anything else is a joke.
I find the butcher job done to RM Avalon to be disgusting. Sound all around is NOT accurate. Making my listening room become the recorded environment is accurate.
For the record, BIA XRCD I found to sound like they jacked up the treble. More real detail to be sure, but very bright.
System: VSA VR4 SE-front VSA VR4jr-rear Sony XA9000ES Rotel RSP1068 BAT VK3i pre Spectron Musician II Rotel RB1090-rear Buggtussel Tegmentum sub Martin Logan Depth sub
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Post by bmoura June 1, 2005 (36 of 43)
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zeus said:
Only a small subset of new discs are/were ever announced on HFR.
I'd have to disagree there. Back when the U.S. was the main source for new SACD titles, quite a few were first announced on HFR.
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Post by zeus June 1, 2005 (37 of 43)
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bmoura said:
I'd have to disagree there. Back when the U.S. was the main source for new SACD titles, quite a few were first announced on HFR.
Hi Brian,
This isn't to denigrate your tremendous efforts, but the number of titles announced on HFR was never near the nearly 3 a day that it currently is. Anybody hoping to keep abreast of new titles by just visiting HFR would miss out on lots of great stuff. This is the point I was trying to make. The US hasn't been the main source of SA-CDs for quite some time, and I'm not sure it ever was.
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Post by LC June 2, 2005 (38 of 43)
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Binder said:
What does one mean by this? Guitars from the rear? I saw them live in Detroit many years ago. I seem to remember all the musicians in front, room ambience in the rear. Replicate reality and I'm good to go with multi-channel. Anything else is a joke.
This recording is not a live concert album. There is no reality to replicate, except what Knopfler and any authorized engineers dream up. Merely adding some effect called "room ambience" to a studio rock album makes no sense. There is no room, or even any single virtual room, whose acoustics are to be captured/recreated. This would be a waste of the multichannel capacity of the disc. If you don't like it, listen to the stereo mix. But it's meaningless to complain that guitars from the rear would somehow be inauthentic.
Also, do recall that "Money for Nothing" (the video) was some of the first CGI in music entertainment. Not exactly "purist" rock. Just the sort of adventureness, I would think, that would suggest an aggressive multichannel mix.
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Post by sgb June 2, 2005 (39 of 43)
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Binder said:
For the record, BIA XRCD I found to sound like they jacked up the treble. More real detail to be sure, but very bright.
For the record, nearly every XRCD I've sampled sounds to me like there's some monkey business going on there. The worst example was Hell Freezes Over (in the pop vein).
I've just finished listening to BIA SA-CD (Stereo only) for the first time, and have not read any of the reviews here nor any of the comments in this thread. My first reaction to it is that there's a veil on the voice that isn't on the vinyl. My second is that it is smoother than the CD, with a better sound stage. Sax on Her Latest Trick is worth a second listen. Other than that, it's something of what I would have hoped for, but more that this doesn't strike me as something to write home about in the sound dept. BIA never measured up to Communiqué or Love Over Gold as far as the sound was concerned anyway, so my reaction was no surprise to me.
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Post by Binder June 2, 2005 (40 of 43)
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LC said:
This recording is not a live concert album. There is no reality to replicate, except what Knopfler and any authorized engineers dream up. Merely adding some effect called "room ambience" to a studio rock album makes no sense. There is no room, or even any single virtual room, whose acoustics are to be captured/recreated. This would be a waste of the multichannel capacity of the disc. If you don't like it, listen to the stereo mix. But it's meaningless to complain that guitars from the rear would somehow be inauthentic.
Also, do recall that "Money for Nothing" (the video) was some of the first CGI in music entertainment. Not exactly "purist" rock. Just the sort of adventureness, I would think, that would suggest an aggressive multichannel mix.
LC, I must strongly dissagree with your entire statement. While of course BIA is not a live album, the live performance that the particular artist creates certainly is the paradigm to be emulated. Be it Rock, Blues, Chamber etc., unless the artist has instruments arrayed about the venue, the music is in front, hall ambience in the rear. Far from being a waste of MC capacity, this treatment should be considered an abuse. The true beauty of MC, IMHO, is the ability to melt the walls of my listening room away to create a seemingly much larger space I am in, thus heightening the suspension of disbelief. This, again IMHO, is the holy grail that we as music loving audiophiles seek so highly.
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