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Discussion: Mahler: Symphony No. 3 - Jansons

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Post by gavindixon May 6, 2011 (1 of 13)
Jansons allows the woodwind soloists to lean heavily on the upbeats in the second and third movements, and there is some slightly pedantic articulation in the last movement from the strings. Otherwise, well played and well recorded:
http://www.classical-cd-reviews.com/2011/05/mahler-3-jansons-concertgebouw.html

Post by hiredfox May 6, 2011 (2 of 13)
A somewhat hesitant and faltering entry the first few pages not being helped by a much too low level recording of timpani. Momentum is established after five minutes. This is my favorite score so have been listening like a hawk (?). Another run through this evening

Post by seth May 6, 2011 (3 of 13)
gavindixon said:

Jansons allows the woodwind soloists to lean heavily on the upbeats in the second and third movements, and there is some slightly pedantic articulation in the last movement from the strings. Otherwise, well played and well recorded:
http://www.classical-cd-reviews.com/2011/05/mahler-3-jansons-concertgebouw.html

"Recordings of Mahler symphonies are hardly at a premium just now. This is the first I've heard on SACD, but it is at least the third to have been released on the format after well-received versions from Tilson Thomas and Gergiev."

The reviewer left out the superb recording the Concertgebouw made with Chailly and Decca.

Post by hiredfox May 7, 2011 (4 of 13)
seth said:

"Recordings of Mahler symphonies are hardly at a premium just now. This is the first I've heard on SACD, but it is at least the third to have been released on the format after well-received versions from Tilson Thomas and Gergiev."

The reviewer left out the superb recording the Concertgebouw made with Chailly and Decca.

Jansons 3rd is a real Curate's Egg, even the live audience cannot quite decide how enthusiastic their applause at the end should be. Their restraint seems to mirror exactly my own sentiments.

I wasn't sure at all after two spins, 'Langsam' and 'Ruhevoll' were for example exquisite whilst Bernarda Fink's "O Mensch Gib Acht" produced more than the usual amount of stifled teardrops but the hesitant and slow starting 'Kraftig' was less encouraging and rather sets the scene.

That is to take nothing away from another beautifully balanced recording by Polyhymnia although on one or two occasions one sensed they struggled to deal with the acoustics of the legendary Concertgebouw (dare I suggest such sacrilege?) when the massive forces deployed threatened to overwhelm.

Good but not exceptional so Chailly remains safe as the SACD choice

Post by Russell May 7, 2011 (5 of 13)
hiredfox said:

Jansons 3rd is a real Curate's Egg, even the live audience cannot quite decide how enthusiastic their applause at the end should be. Their restraint seems to mirror exactly my own sentiments.

I wasn't sure at all after two spins, 'Langsam' and 'Ruhevoll' were for example exquisite whilst Bernarda Fink's "O Mensch Gib Acht" produced more than the usual amount of stifled teardrops but the hesitant and slow starting 'Kraftig' was less encouraging and rather sets the scene.

That is to take nothing away from another beautifully balanced recording by Polyhymnia although on one or two occasions one sensed they struggled to deal with the acoustics of the legendary Concertgebouw (dare I suggest such sacrilege?) when the massive forces deployed threatened to overwhelm.

Good but not exceptional so Chailly remains safe as the SACD choice

Thanks for your impressions. I wasn't impressed at all with their Mahler 2nd, so I'm not surprised that this new 3rd isn't that wonderful either. I love the Chailly SACD as well, but the one I've been going to lately is the recent Alan Gilbert 'live' New York Phil performance from 2009 (his inaugural concert as Music Director). Thankfully this can be heard in fabulous hi-res sound as a 96/24 download (from HDtracks).

Russell

Post by Polly Nomial May 7, 2011 (6 of 13)
I'm hoping that Nott's 3rd lives up to the rest of his cycle to date...

Post by lennyw May 7, 2011 (7 of 13)
Such a pity Rattle's recent BPO Mahler 3 wasn't captured in SACD. Was a concert I'll never forget, and left me with the feeling that I'll never hear the piece so well performed again.

As for the RCO series, I've given up. The Sym2 was IMHO a pretty terrible recording (just compare it to MTT's); the performance not exactly interesting. A shame...

Post by current93 May 8, 2011 (8 of 13)
Personally I have high hopes for this one. Hope it will be available in Europe soon. It seems to be a cycle, and very good and welcome one,

http://img.hmv.co.jp/image/jacket/190/40/4/2/206.jpg
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/4042206

Post by hiredfox May 8, 2011 (9 of 13)
current93 said:

Personally I have high hopes for this one. Hope it will be available in Europe soon. It seems to be a cycle, and very good and welcome one,

http://img.hmv.co.jp/image/jacket/190/40/4/2/206.jpg
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/4042206

Thanks for these links. Looks promising.

Post by seth May 8, 2011 (10 of 13)
lennyw said:

As for the RCO series, I've given up. The Sym2 was IMHO a pretty terrible recording (just compare it to MTT's); the performance not exactly interesting. A shame...

I was not a fan of the recording of the 5th (see my review), but I was given 2nd as a gift and I think it's pretty solid. Much stronger interpretation and recorded sound than the 5th. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it given all of the outstanding 2nds out there (Mehta, Fischer, Gielen, etc), but I also wouldn't tell someone not to buy it.

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