Thread: Stereophile Poll - about half with SACD capable players

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Post by zeus December 2, 2003 (1 of 8)
"Have you bought into one or both of the high-rez audio formats—and what do you think about them?"

I've got a universal player:  15%
I've got a DVD-Audio player:  4%
I've got a SACD player:  32%
Don't have either but will soon:  12%
Don't have either and don't care:  34%

Details:

http://cgi.stereophile.com/cgi-bin/showvote.cgi?333

Post by Dan Popp December 2, 2003 (2 of 8)
Zeus/Stephen,
I don't pay much attention to "write-in," as opposed to "call-out" polls because I'm not sure how reliable they are. Perhaps some information or trends can be gleaned from them over time. What did you find interesting or enlightening about the "vote"?

Now that I've invested in an SACD player and some discs, I find myself wanting DVD-A to go away. ! That's bad of me, isn't it? I've heard virtually no DVD-A recordings, but the ones I have heard didn't seem to convey the _emotion_ of the music like SACD can do. I just don't want VHS to kill Beta again; but maybe they're not analogous, or things are different this time.

Post by zeus December 2, 2003 (3 of 8)
Dan Popp said:

Zeus/Stephen,
I don't pay much attention to "write-in," as opposed to "call-out" polls because I'm not sure how reliable they are. Perhaps some information or trends can be gleaned from them over time. What did you find interesting or enlightening about the "vote"?

By its nature, its limited to Stereophile readers who use a computer and bother to visit their site. I found the comparison with their last similar poll (In July 2002) instructive. The percentage with SACDs (not necessarily players) was then 36%:

"Have you purchased any SACD, DVD-Audio, or DAD (24/96 DVD-V) discs yet?

http://cgi.stereophile.com/cgi-bin/showvote.cgi?263

Post by Dinko December 2, 2003 (4 of 8)
Isn't Stereophile a little biased in favour of SACD, though? That's the impression I've gotten from a number of their articles.

Post by zeus December 2, 2003 (5 of 8)
Dinko said:

Isn't Stereophile a little biased in favour of SACD, though? That's the impression I've gotten from a number of their articles.

There's been a fair amount of SACD coverage over the years, especially in the latest issue. But I think the magazine just reflects the views of its readership ... a smart thing to do if you want to sell copies!

Post by beardawgs December 3, 2003 (6 of 8)
"Have you purchased any SACD, DVD-Audio, or DAD (24/96 DVD-V) discs yet?
Until recently I had impression that DVD-A will die of death, as there was not really much good music to buy on it. We have Marantz universal player, so we are not bothered which format we buy, but there are preferences – SACD is much cheaper, DVD-A discs are at least 20-30% more expensive, and already you can find some real SACD bargains on amazon z-shops, but not yet any of DVD-A. And then, it is a real palaver to switch on TV every time you want to play something from DVD-A and go through the menus, video circuitry on our player and amp are off most the time... And we all know the differences between PCM and DSD.

The question in the poll about which format you buy doesn’t give the clear picture - how many discs of each format you buy would be a better question – we would go into ‘buy both’ category, but what’s the rate: right now we have over 100 SACDs and 16 DVD-As! And then, few of those DVD-audios are rather poor EMI early surround experiments, couple of cheap NAXOS (now coming out on SACD), Mahler with Rattle and some pop stuff – Queen, Bjork and Joni Mitchell, i.e. titles not available on SACD (btw, if you have DVD-A playing possibilities, go for Joni Mitchell, it one of the best recorded discs on any format!). So, regarding classical music, nothing really worth mentioning. I just can’t imagine any hard-core DVD-A devotee being happy with the available music. Until recently, that is, now that we have Universal DVD-Audio titles not available on SACD...

Post by Dan Popp December 4, 2003 (7 of 8)
This month's issue of Pro Audio Review has an article on the Bel Canto combo player. Looks like it avoids the issue that has bugged me about other combo players; there is equal attention paid to all the various converters. It's only $8,900 (gasp!) but that will not seem like a lot of money to some folks. www.belcantodesign.com is the address listed in the article.

Post by tream December 8, 2003 (8 of 8)
Dinko said:

Isn't Stereophile a little biased in favour of SACD, though? That's the impression I've gotten from a number of their articles.

If anything, Stereophile has a. put high resolution formats on the back burner (I was extremely surprised, for example, when the release of the first universal player didn't make a bigger splash, although the promise of a conclusion to the format war that was holding back acceptance was on the horizon, which I felt was a major story) b. published articles negative to SACD technology (check out the Rich Report, November 2000, which can be found at www.stereophile.com, as an example.) c. has ignored multichannel as best it can (although it now has a quarterly column). For example, the review of the Esoteric DV-50 in the August 03 issue didn't test the unit's multichannel capabilities.

I have always found Stereophile to be the best of the audiophile publications, at least in the US, but I now suscribe to The Absolute Sound as well because they are doing a much better job of covering high resolution and multichannel. I think a few of the Sterophile reviewers are finally getting it (Fremer and Robinson), so hopefully the magazine will finally get there as well.

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