Thread: UK govt to legalize ripping official

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Post by TROLL-Buster August 3, 2011 (1 of 6)
In line with other countries in the world Vince Cable
is to announce this measure in the very near future.
So in the UK What you pay for is yours.CD and DVD wise.
Obviously sacds havent been mention in the discussion.

I expect their will be some clarity to follow on whether you can exchange your
cds and rips?

Interesting.

Post by Claude August 3, 2011 (2 of 6)
The change is not a big deal. The law is just being adapted to reality and to international standards, which allows private copying under certain circumstances. Up to now, it was illegal to rip a CD to put it on a iPod. Of course, nobody respected this.

But copyprotected media - however weak the copyprotection is - like DVDs, Blu-ray or SACDs cannot be legally ripped. That is an international standard too. Exchanging music in a circle outside the family and cloe friends is generally not allowed in countries which allow private copying, so I suppose the british law will also be restrictive on that point. No legislator in the world has yet legalized filesharing of coyrighted material.

Edit: news articles mention that it will be possible to copy DVDs too, but I wonder how they will make this compatible with EU law, which isn't flexble on the point of circumvention of copyprotection

Post by audioholik August 3, 2011 (3 of 6)
>I wonder how they will make this compatible with EU law, which isn't flexble on the point of circumvention of copyprotection

I thought it was legal to make copies (for your own use) of SACDs in the entire EU...

Post by TROLL-Buster August 3, 2011 (4 of 6)
Claude said:

The change is not a big deal. The law is just being adapted to reality and to international standards, which allows private copying under certain circumstances. Up to now, it was illegal to rip a CD to put it on a iPod. Of course, nobody respected this.

But copyprotected media - however weak the copyprotection is - like DVDs, Blu-ray or SACDs cannot be legally ripped. That is an international standard too. Exchanging music in a circle outside the family and cloe friends is generally not allowed in countries which allow private copying, so I suppose the british law will also be restrictive on that point. No legislator in the world has yet legalized filesharing of coyrighted material.

Edit: news articles mention that it will be possible to copy DVDs too, but I wonder how they will make this compatible with EU law, which isn't flexble on the point of circumvention of copyprotection

Sorry Claude but your comments are way out of touch

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/uk-drops-plan-to-block-file-sharing-sites/53856

Post by Polly Nomial August 3, 2011 (5 of 6)
TROLL-Buster said:

I expect their will be some clarity to follow on whether you can exchange your
cds and rips?

As I'm sure everyone here would hope, this will only apply for other devices personally owned and used by the media file/disc holder and their immediate family - i.e. no legal sharing between friends of MP3's or similar other than by taking own MP3 player to other persons house and using that to play back.

I really hope no-one here is advocating cutting the jugular of those who provide them with their listening material...

Post by Claude August 3, 2011 (6 of 6)
TROLL-Buster said:

Sorry Claude but your comments are way out of touch

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/uk-drops-plan-to-block-file-sharing-sites/53856

In what sense? Are you referring to the article headline?

If filesharing websites are not being blocked by ISPs (if forced by law to censor the net), it doesn't mean that filesharing is not illegal. There are technical measures against piracy (copyprotection, internet filters) and legal measures. On the road, speed limits do count in the absence of radars.

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