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Discussion: Herbeck: Symphony No. 4 - Haselböck

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Post by Castor July 27, 2005 (1 of 6)
I can find little information about this composer other than that he conducted the first performance of Schubert's Unfinished Symphony.
Does anyone have this SACD or can anyone provide some information about the style of Herbeck's music?
Thanks

Post by brenda July 27, 2005 (2 of 6)
Castor said: I can find little information about this composer other than that he conducted the first performance of Schubert's Unfinished Symphony.
Does anyone have this SACD or can anyone provide some information about the style of Herbeck's music? Thanks

hi Graham, didnt know Herbeck was a composer but he was well known as

- director of the Vienna opera in the early 1870's
- an advocate/champion of the "young" Bruckner (Herbeck died in 1877)
- the "discoverer" of the Schubert "Unfinished" Symphony.

The Herbeck medal for singing was established in his name. That's all i can tell you, I'm afraid. Regards, B.

Post by Peter July 27, 2005 (3 of 6)
Herbeck did great work at the Vienna opera, encouraged Brahms, Bruckner and was a friend of Liszt. He was considered a top conductor. An off the cuff generalisation of his encouraged Smetana to include nationalistic themes in his compositions.

http://www.globusz.com/ebooks/Liszt/00000232.htm

I can't find any reference to his style of music, though, and wonder whether it's going to sound a bit like Rheinberger. As I'm very fond of his organ sonatas and concertos I do hope so. Grove may be a help, but I don't have access. If anyone does, the gist of his style would be useful. He achieved a great deal in quite a short life. Thanks.

Post by Castor July 27, 2005 (4 of 6)
Peter said:

Herbeck did great work at the Vienna opera, encouraged Brahms, Bruckner and was a friend of Liszt. He was considered a top conductor. An off the cuff generalisation of his encouraged Smetana to include nationalistic themes in his compositions.

http://www.globusz.com/ebooks/Liszt/00000232.htm

I can't find any reference to his style of music, though, and wonder whether it's going to sound a bit like Rheinberger. As I'm very fond of his organ sonatas and concertos I do hope so. Grove may be a help, but I don't have access. If anyone does, the gist of his style would be useful. He achieved a great deal in quite a short life. Thanks.

Thanks Peter(and Brenda) for the information.
I hope that one of our German posters buys this SACD and reports on it, as an Organ Symphony from someone other than Saint-Saens sounds most interesting.

Post by Windsurfer June 22, 2006 (5 of 6)
Like the SIMAX "Norwegian Pioneer" disc of music by Ole Bull, this is a disc of what I shall call "curio" music of no particular significance or merit. Its sole merit in my ears is that it employs organ effectively. However there is no real substance in the music. Background music of sorts. I thought it was a really fine recording however and would like to see some Bruckner symphonies from this lot. hmmm how about Hans Pfizner as well and Franz Schmitt's Symphony #2?

Post by Peter June 22, 2006 (6 of 6)
Windsurfer said:

Like the SIMAX "Norwegian Pioneer" disc of music by Ole Bull, this is a disc of what I shall call "curio" music of no particular significance or merit. Its sole merit in my ears is that it employs organ effectively. However there is no real substance in the music. Background music of sorts. I thought it was a really fine recording however and would like to see some Bruckner symphonies from this lot. hmmm how about Hans Pfizner as well and Franz Schmitt's Symphony #2?

Schmidt and Pfitzner need a more proficient orchestra, I think.

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