Thread: Yamaha Universal players

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Post by Iain February 1, 2013 (21 of 27)
seth said:

But your point is still right -- the disc has to use java for the Blu-ray bookmark feature to work.

Point well taken, mate.

However, my pedantic side won't let this rest; it's actually called "Last Position Recall". : )

Been awhile since I resolved that minor issue almost two years ago and haven't thought of it since.

Post by slim8626 February 1, 2013 (22 of 27)
Iain said:

Quite right. It's title dependant as a function of on-disc java programme. This format was introduced in late 2009.

First BD title I purchased was recent release in very late 2010 that had this functionality. Later in 2011, I purchased two BD titles released in mid 2009 that didn't.

It's an idiosyncrasy of BD format in that early titles won't have the java necessary for this function.

Thus, although the Yamaha A1020 user manual specifies that the Bookmark function works with DVD and Video only, in fact its Bookmark can work with some BD discs, provided the BD discs have the requisite java for this function. I asked because my Denon DBP2012 user manual explicitly states that its Bookmark function works with DVD, Video and BD (again, subject to the BD discs having the requisite java).

Many thanks for your very pertinent responses.

Post by slim8626 February 2, 2013 (23 of 27)
Can anyone who has owned or used the Yamaha A1020 please confirm that it can bookmark more recent BD discs that have the requisite java? The Denon DBP2012 I own uses the term Marker, while Yamaha A1020 uses Bookmark/Marker for the same function. The bookmark function is accessed under SEARCH or MARKER button on the respective remote controllers. This player-specific bookmark function is separate from some software-driven BD discs that offer bookmarking facility which is accessed by pressing one or more of the four coloured buttons on a BD player remote controller, without the need for a player-specific SEARCH or MARKER button.

Post by seth February 3, 2013 (24 of 27)
slim8626 said:

Can anyone who has owned or used the Yamaha A1020 please confirm that it can bookmark more recent BD discs that have the requisite java? The Denon DBP2012 I own uses the term Marker, while Yamaha A1020 uses Bookmark/Marker for the same function. The bookmark function is accessed under SEARCH or MARKER button on the respective remote controllers. This player-specific bookmark function is separate from some software-driven BD discs that offer bookmarking facility which is accessed by pressing one or more of the four coloured buttons on a BD player remote controller, without the need for a player-specific SEARCH or MARKER button.

The manual is silent on this because it's a software issue, not hardware.

The red, green, yellow and blue buttons on the remote are "soft keys" that each disc can use in a unique way -- they have no pre-assigned function -- the disc determines their function.

The java bookmark feature utilizes those soft buttons -- a disc with this functionality will typically tell you that one of the buttons is used for making a bookmark and another for removing.

The remote to the Yamaha has the standard soft keys. Thus, the Yamaha has the required hardware for utilizing this feature.

Post by slim8626 February 3, 2013 (25 of 27)
seth said:

The manual is silent on this because it's a software issue, not hardware.

The red, green, yellow and blue buttons on the remote are "soft keys" that each disc can use in a unique way -- they have no pre-assigned function -- the disc determines their function.

The java bookmark feature utilizes those soft buttons -- a disc with this functionality will typically tell you that one of the buttons is used for making a bookmark and another for removing.

The remote to the Yamaha has the standard soft keys. Thus, the Yamaha has the required hardware for utilizing this feature.

On my Denon DBP2012, I can use the SEARCH button to bookmark certain BD discs (e.g., Celebration Day by Led Zeppelin). The same BD discs cannot be bookmarked with any of the red, green, yellow and blue buttons.

The Denon DBP2012 has the SEARCH button on its remote, while the Yamaha has the equivalent MARKER button, which however, is stated to work with DVD and VIDEO only (no mention of BD). Thus I wonder if the MARKER button on the YAMAHA remote will also bookmark BD discs that can be bookmarked by the Denon DBP2012's SEARCH button.

Post by seth February 3, 2013 (26 of 27)
slim8626 said:

On my Denon DBP2012, I can use the SEARCH button to bookmark certain BD discs (e.g., Celebration Day by Led Zeppelin). The same BD discs cannot be bookmarked with any of the red, green, yellow and blue buttons.

The Denon DBP2012 has the SEARCH button on its remote, while the Yamaha has the equivalent MARKER button, which however, is stated to work with DVD and VIDEO only (no mention of BD). Thus I wonder if the MARKER button on the YAMAHA remote will also bookmark BD discs that can be bookmarked by the Denon DBP2012's SEARCH button.

The Yamaha manual states its bookmark feature is only for DVDs.

Post by slim8626 February 3, 2013 (27 of 27)
seth said:

The Yamaha manual states its bookmark feature is only for DVDs.

The Denon DBP2012 manual states that its SEARCH function works with DVD, VIDEO and BD. But perhaps, unlike Denon, Yamaha does not wish to overstate the capability of their BD players. My question was whether the Yamaha's MARKER button can also bookmark some BD discs (such as Celebration Day by Led Zeppelin) that the SEARCH button on the Denon DBP2012 player can?

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