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Discussion: The Doors: The Doors

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Post by benvandyk March 3, 2013 (1 of 7)
I guess it does not matter on this disc were its made. no one likes the rear surround mix. but I know how to get problem recordings to sound there best. this set up is a reversed itu set up. the rears are plenty loud this way. not an easy disc to get all the speakers to sound equal. ps there is no ambience in the rears either. its all music.

Post by rammiepie March 3, 2013 (2 of 7)
benvandyk said:

I guess it does not matter on this disc were its made. no one likes the rear surround mix. but I know how to get problem recordings to sound there best. this set up is a reversed itu set up. the rears are plenty loud this way. not an easy disc to get all the speakers to sound equal. ps there is no ambience in the rears either. its all music.

Ben, Analogue Productions used the best tape copy available and not the original analogue master tapes for the first Doors SACD mch remaster which, I believe, was only recorded on four track tape........thus not the best use of discrete surrounds

For the second album, Eight track analogue was used and AP used the original analogue masters for all other SACD mch remasters.

I'm still sticking with my DVD~A edition of all albums as they sound fantastic.......and a LOT cheaper.

Post by DSD March 3, 2013 (3 of 7)
Rammiepie I also have the Doors 24/96 DVD-Audios, which I think also sound fantastic in 2 channel stereo. So are you saying the new Analogue Productions SACDs don't offer a further improvement or that improvement is not worth the increased cost?

Post by Claude March 4, 2013 (4 of 7)
You have to compare things that are comparable. As far as stereo goes, there are the original mixes as well as the remixes made from the multi-track masters. They sound quite different.

Post by rammiepie March 4, 2013 (5 of 7)
DSD said:

Rammiepie I also have the Doors 24/96 DVD-Audios, which I think also sound fantastic in 2 channel stereo. So are you saying the new Analogue Productions SACDs don't offer a further improvement or that improvement is not worth the increased cost?

As the new AP Doors SACDs were transferred on all tubed equipment with the assistance of original recording engineer Bruce Botnick, I would say that Claude is correct. The two would have to be compared.

If one doesn't have the DVD~As, then by all means I would invest in the AP transfers as they never disappoint, as least IMO.

Post by SteelyTom March 4, 2013 (6 of 7)
DSD said:

Rammiepie I also have the Doors 24/96 DVD-Audios, which I think also sound fantastic in 2 channel stereo. So are you saying the new Analogue Productions SACDs don't offer a further improvement or that improvement is not worth the increased cost?

Like Rammiepie, in Analogue Productions I trust, and I'm sure Doug Sax has done the best job anyone could with the available Doors tapes. But with material like this, the object of wave after wave of audiophile reissues, the point of diminishing returns has been reached. (I'd put things like Time Out and Kind of Blue, among several other things, in that category.)

From a business perspective, one wonders how APO will respond if their expensive, multi-disc Doors venture results in lackluster reviews and disappointing sales.

Post by rammiepie March 4, 2013 (7 of 7)
SteelyTom said:

Like Rammiepie, in Analogue Productions I trust, and I'm sure Doug Sax has done the best job anyone could with the available Doors tapes. But with material like this, the object of wave after wave of audiophile reissues, the point of diminishing returns has been reached. (I'd put things like Time Out and Kind of Blue, among several other things, in that category.)

From a business perspective, one wonders how APO will respond if their expensive, multi-disc Doors venture results in lackluster reviews and disappointing sales.

I do think that AP's Doors reissues will sell briskly as not everyone bought into the Perception DVD~A box set and the lack of multichannel Rock SACDs is so "embarassing" that not to worry....they WILL sell! (especially in the limited quantities AP presses their reissues).

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