Thread: Speakers for Stereo Classical Music Listening

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Post by Polarius T September 25, 2013 (31 of 52)
ClassicalDJ said:

Convince me that there is a pair of speakers out there in the $2500 range that will by themselves blow my socks off...

Are you Catholic? Chances are His Former Holiness Benedict XVI, current pensioner Herr Doctor Joseph Ratzinger, is busy having his socks blown off by a pair of ME-Geithains as we speak.

Il Papa ha ragione!

If that's not enough convincing, they are also loved by the makers of all that music we then try to reproduce in our homes, like the Berlin Phil, all of the opera houses in that city, Staatskapelle Dresden, Leipzig Gewandhausorchester, Bavarian Radio, Northwest German Radio, Southwest German Radio, NHK Japan, RAI Italy, ORF Austria, Sony Classical Germany, and Polygram Europe. Plus too many recording and editing studios and radio station control rooms all over the world to be listed in here.

I don't know of one single pro monitoring setup that uses panels.

http://www.me-geithain.de/index.php/en/studio/products/active-loudspeaker

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end/427937-geithain-901k.html

Post by SteelyTom September 25, 2013 (32 of 52)
Polarius T said:

Are you Catholic? Chances are His Former Holiness Benedict XVI, current pensioner Herr Doctor Joseph Ratzinger, is busy having his socks blown off by a pair of ME-Geithains as we speak.

I'm more interested in what Francis uses to listen to his treasured 1962 Knappertsbusch recording of Parsifal. I'll bet he's got B&Ws.

Post by Naun September 26, 2013 (33 of 52)
I haven't heard them, but if I were in the market for a new pair (or more) of speakers I'd audition the Gallo Classico series. They're in your price range, extremely well regarded by audiophiles, and are available factory direct for a home trial.

Post by Polarius T September 26, 2013 (34 of 52)
SteelyTom said:

I'm more interested in what Francis uses to listen to his treasured 1962 Knappertsbusch recording of Parsifal. I'll bet he's got B&Ws.

You think any Argentine would voluntarily opt for something British?

Post by SteelyTom September 26, 2013 (35 of 52)
Only if they promised to fork over the "Falklands."

Post by hiredfox September 27, 2013 (36 of 52)
Polarius T said:

You think any Argentine would voluntarily opt for something British?

Easy trap to fall into. Our local Premier League Football team recently appointed an Argentinian head coach who apparently loves living in our part of the world.

In my many business visits to every region of Argentina I have only ever been greeted with the utmost courtesy, respect and friendship. I was asked once to judge a gaucho ring spearing competition and award the medals despite an appalling lack of knowledge of equestrian skills . The Falklands was never a subject of conversation even in jest.

Post by hiredfox September 27, 2013 (37 of 52)
SteelyTom said:

Only if they promised to fork over the "Falklands."

You chose the right option!

Post by Fitzcaraldo215 September 27, 2013 (38 of 52)
Polarius T said:


I don't know of one single pro monitoring setup that uses panels.

True. It may be because dipole panels do not do deep bass well and usually require a separate sub or subs, complicating the monitoring setup. They are also sometimes a bit more limited in ultimate dynamic range, as with electrostats. But, that is rarely a limiting factor in the home. Also, they require more space behind the speakers, which might be impossible in the control room.

With Mch recordings, the ITU standard also specifies monopoles, though I think properly set up dipoles also sound great. In any case, and also for stereo, most home systems use monopoles. So, whether for ITU or just to be more consistent with how most people listen or just by tradition, the Pros use monopoles. However, excellent results can be achieved with planar dipoles. I find that they "disappear" as sound sources better than monopoles for a variety of good technical reasons.

Post by hiredfox September 27, 2013 (39 of 52)
stvnharr said:

Are you looking new or used?
You get better value in the used market.
Or you can go to a direct selling speaker maker, like Selah Audio, www.selahaudio.com for the best value of all. I highly recommend anything designed/made by Rick Craig.

That is true up to a point only; of all components, speakers are the most likely to carry the scars of domestic abuse. It is the one component of hi-fi that I will never buy second hand.

Your advice must carry a health warning "Caveat emptor"

Post by hiredfox September 27, 2013 (40 of 52)
Fitzcaraldo215 said:

True. It may be because dipole panels do not do deep bass well and usually require a separate sub or subs, complicating the monitoring setup. They are also sometimes a bit more limited in ultimate dynamic range, as with electrostats. But, that is rarely a limiting factor in the home. Also, they require more space behind the speakers, which might be impossible in the control room.

With Mch recordings, the ITU standard also specifies monopoles, though I think properly set up dipoles also sound great. In any case, and also for stereo, most home systems use monopoles. So, whether for ITU or just to be more consistent with how most people listen or just by tradition, the Pros use monopoles. However, excellent results can be achieved with planar dipoles. I find that they "disappear" as sound sources better than monopoles for a variety of good technical reasons.

Yes

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