Thread: Why are so many non SACD recordings posted as SACD's on this site?

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Post by Windsurfer March 18, 2014 (31 of 37)
posbwp55 said:

OK, I am getting ready for work so I will give you just one. Hillary Hahn Mendelssohn, Shostakovich. The Sony catalog number is 89921. This is a DSD recording NOT a SACD. I have the APL Master SACD player ($35,000). It defaults to the SACD layer. There is no SACD layer on this CD.

Bart

Well I just found my SACD copy of this disc.

1) The catalog number is in fact 89921. Why Sony should have done this ( assigned the same catalog number to both the SACD and the CD, is for them to know and for us to ponder.

2) I have had one or two discs whose SACD layer would not play on my Sony SCD 9000 ES - this was fixed when I returned the player to Sony for repair under warranty.

Paying $35,000 for a disc player does not ensure that it will play all SACDs. Though with a single layer disc, such failure should be surprising. If it plays in your car or other CD player, then you are right; it certainly is not an SACD.

3) Visual identifiers that the disc is an SACD are not present on the front of the case but they are on the rear.

There is in the lower right hand corner, a small box with the Sony Classical logo right beneath that is the SACD logo. I am curious how you came to have this disc in your possession if it has that logo on the back and is not what it pretents to be! If you got it from an Amazon seller you should have some recourse. I hope you didn't pay the $247 + shipping they ask for a new copy. There are more reasonably priced used copies available if you click the "used" link on the Amazon website.

Perhaps you could enlighten us regarding your acquisition of this apparently phony SACD. Or simply admit to yourself you made a careless error in purchasing the disc..

One thing is certain. The SACD of SS 89921 is not misrepresented on this site. You really owe Zeus an apology!

Post by Hercules March 19, 2014 (32 of 37)
Photo speaks for itself.

Post by Iain March 19, 2014 (33 of 37)
posbwp55 said:

... I have the APL Master SACD player ($35,000). It defaults to the SACD layer. ...

Bart

Maybe it's time to move into the current century and get a new player.

BTW, what's the point of posting a price on your player? My Sony BDP is probably a significant upgrade over your old-school solution.

EDIT: WRT the rapid pace of today's technological change, I wouldn't pay over 200 quid for a new player. You should upgrade every 2-3 years to keep up with current technology.

Post by stvnharr March 19, 2014 (34 of 37)
Iain said:

Maybe it's time to move into the current century and get a new player.

BTW, what's the point of posting a price on your player? My Sony BDP is probably a significant upgrade over your old-school solution.

EDIT: WRT the rapid pace of today's technological change, I wouldn't pay over 200 quid for a new player. You should upgrade every 2-3 years to keep up with current technology.

You are changing the subject matter here. If you actually knew anything, you'd know about the APL player.
BTW, just because something is new does not mean it is any good. It all depends on what it is, rather than being new.

Post by Windsurfer March 21, 2014 (35 of 37)
hensdav said:

The entire Hilary Hahn catalog is not available on SACD.

However, the titles listed here at SA-CD.net are indeed SACDs.

Do you have other examples?

Perhaps we've misunderstood your observations?

It seems to me that the way to express this is: "The entire Hilary Hahn catalog in SACD is Out of Print".

There may be an unopened copy somewhere to sold at an outrageously high price and undoubtedly there are used copies available. Amazom.com has resellers with used copies of the Shostakovitch/Mendelssohn starting at $42 USD according to their website.

I bought all mine when they first came out through this site by clicking on the Amazon link for each. All the discs I received were indeed SACDs.

On the other hand I do remember some time ago I had to return a disc to Amazon that did not have an SACD layer and the disc sent was not marked as an SACD. But I had no problem receiving a full refund and when I reordered, that second disc I received was an SACD.

Post by Windsurfer March 21, 2014 (36 of 37)
I want to go on record here to refute the idea that any non-SACD recordings are posted on this site. I have never found this to be the case. But we do have SACD recording listed that I know are out of print. However, when a vendor is listed those OOP discs are available both used and if new, at highwayman prices.

posbwp55 likely misunderstands the relationship between this site and the listed vendors. And all should understand that there is absolutely no relationship with vendors that are not listed here. This means that whatever happens to you at HB Direct or Elusive Disc, or whatever, it has no relationship to what is on this site.

Post by hensdav March 21, 2014 (37 of 37)
Windsurfer said:

It seems to me that the way to express this is: "The entire Hilary Hahn catalog in SACD is Out of Print".

Concur, to a degree.

The Hilary Hahn SACD catalog may indeed be out of print, but that's not what the poster had observed.

How about this: Not every Hilary Hahn title was released on CD and SACD. In fact, most have been released on CD only. There are a few titles that were released on both formats: CD and SACD. (Some of those SACDs were hybrids as well!)

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