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Discussion: From the Imperial Court - Stile Antico

Posts: 6

Post by SteelyTom September 24, 2014 (1 of 6)
Actually, Hapsburg imperial rule came to an end in 1918 with the end of WWI, not in the 18th century, as the review states.

Post by Lute September 24, 2014 (2 of 6)
Amazing to think that 100 years ago, WWI had just begun... Not only was it the twilight of the Hapsburgs but also that of the Ottomans.

I would love to see Heinrich Isaac: Missa de Apostolis/Motets - Tallis Scholars (Gimell) released on SACD or Bluray.

Looking forward to this one by Stile Antico all the same.

Post by Geohominid September 24, 2014 (3 of 6)
SteelyTom said:

Actually, Hapsburg imperial rule came to an end in 1918 with the end of WWI, not in the 18th century, as the review states.

Well, I wasn't wanting to go into too much detail as I was writing about the music. Historically, the house of Hapsburg (the "they" in my sentence) did dissolve in the C18th. Here is what a Wiki says (and this information appears in a number of other seemingly authoritative sites):

"The House of Habsburg became extinct in the 18th century. The senior branch ended upon the death of Charles II of Spain in 1700 and was replaced by the House of Bourbon. The remaining branch went extinct in the male line in 1740 with the death of Holy Roman Emperor Charles VI and completely in 1780 with the death of his eldest daughter, Maria Theresa of Austria. It was succeeded by the Vaudemont branch of the House of Lorraine. The new successor house styled itself formally as House of Habsburg-Lorraine (German: Habsburg-Lothringen), although it was often referred to as simply the House of Habsburg."
It was the House of Habsburg-Lorraine which continued thus:

"On 11 November 1918, with his empire collapsing around him, the last Habsburg ruler, Charles I (who also reigned as Charles IV of Hungary) issued a proclamation recognizing Austria's right to determine the future of the state and renouncing any role in state affairs. Two days later, he issued a separate proclamation for Hungary. Even though he did not officially abdicate, this is considered the end of the Habsburg dynasty" (Note that says dynasty, not House of Habsburg).

Taking the Habsburg name to its limit, the last male of the Hapsburg-Lorraine House, Otto von Habsburg, Emperor Charles' eldest son, renounced all claims to the throne in 1961. He died at 98 years old on 4 July 2011, historically his claims to the throne of the Holy Roman Empire being called a pretence.

So the confusion was brought about by some commentators inaccurately calling the House of Habsburg-Lorraine "House of Habsburg"

I'm glad not to be a historian...

John

Post by SteelyTom September 24, 2014 (4 of 6)
To be sure, a family with serious issues.

Post by sunnydaler March 3, 2015 (5 of 6)

Post by Lute March 4, 2015 (6 of 6)
sunnydaler said:
Check out Desprez: Missa Ave maris stella - Bull

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