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Post by Marpow November 21, 2015 (2091 of 2132)
Lute said:

Holy cow! This is pretty good, Ralph.

Speaking of Rush, here's an interview with Geddy Lee... http://finance.yahoo.com/news/geddy-lee-rush-cranked-back-211822581.html

Well I am still riding my bike 4 days a week, gotta keep fit for the little bundle of joy.

Today I need to redo my Audessy Correction as some things have moved around in my listening space, you gotta keep on top of that Audessy.

I received the expensive $55.00 OOP Genesis Invisible Touch 5.1 and is really good. It's amazing to me the music industry and how they decide on what and how things get packaged. This Invisible Touch comes with two discs, a hybrid SACD, stereo and a DVD with DTS 5.1 or Dolby 5.1. Plus some videos, etc.

Speaking of BD~V's I have on the way Queens Night at the Odeon, where I have read picture is great and sound is so/so. I have come to expect concert surround videos to be ambient, which is still OK as ambient,as weak as it may be, still fills the listening space.

But as Derek can attest, when the Beatles come out with studio recordings in ambient it is very disappointing.

I am saving the Moondance 5.1 for later today after I do my Audessy correction and chores.

I am curious Ralph, have you listened to Billy Gibbons Perfectamundo yet, I still love it.

Another thing I am curious about is the 16bit vs the 24bit? Why can't they make all RBCD's 24bit? They are releasing a ton of new titles in 24bit as downloads. That's why I like the Hybrid SA-CD's as I can listen in the car. I listen to a ton of discs while driving.

It's like the Led Zep Remastered catalog gets released in 16bit RBCD but you can buy the same remastered catalog in 24bit download. Frustrating.

All I can hope is the RUSH Blu Ray sounds any kind of good because when I saw them in San Jose a few months ago the sound was terrible, live.

Going to see Jason Bonham's Led Zep Experience Dec 4.

Post by rammiepie November 21, 2015 (2092 of 2132)
Mark....you ask why they can't manufacture 24 bit RBCDs........Yeah, wouldn't that be super cool....

Unfortunately, 16 bit/44.1 is 'ingrained' in that not ready for primetime format for backwards compatibility with all the billions of existing RBCD players and that is why they had to use blank DVDs for both DVD~A and SACDs (Yes, SACDs use blank DVDs for replication) to achieve higher than RBCD standards.

HDCD RBCDs, developed by Pacific Microsonics, were, in theory, supposed to achieve 20 bits of resolution but NOT all players implementing HDCD were able to achieve that resolution (CARY Audio boasted that their players with HDCD DID, indeed, achieve full 20 bit resolution).

The Genesis SACDs and Rhino DTS 5.1 versions sound awesome on my system although a lot of posters complained that they were overly bright. I have ALL of them. The SACDs are better IMHO, because they are NOT lossy like their later RHINO DTS remasters but they are very difficult to find as only a limited amount of SACDs were pressed worldwide.

Hope little Charlotte and parents (and grandparents) are doing well. Keep riding that bike, Mark.......good for the mind AND body. And no, I haven't purchased the Billy Gibbons disc yet.....have been on a Frank Zappa binge this past week....as in "Don't EAT the Yellow Snow!"

Post by rammiepie November 22, 2015 (2093 of 2132)
Just played this puppy at a robust volume tonight and it belongs in everyone's psychedelic rock collection, hands down Love: Forever Changes. A MoFi slam dunk SACD release.

Also ordered Primus' newly remixed into 5.1 (unfortunately DD 5.1) Primus and the Chocolate Factory (DVD~V/RBCD)......which is Primus' reimagining of the Leslie Bricusse/Anthony Newley soundtrack to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory ........ should be interesting and real el cheapo @ Import CD (with 10% off, as well). http://www.allmusic.com/album/primus-the-chocolate-factory-with-the-fungi-ensemble-mw0002709863. The DVD~V DD 5.1 also has visuals to go with the music.

Couldn't resist. Had to order this (from BIS): http://www.hraudio.net/showmusic.php?title=11014.

My fourth Sibelius cycle on multichannel SACD and I understand one of the VERY best!

Post by rammiepie November 22, 2015 (2094 of 2132)
Another very high recommendation on the Warner Brothers Label......Miles Davis TuTu in discrete MLP 96/24 5.1 sound........

A Sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAMJy-PHzKE

Sounds incredible on my system.

I also just placed an order for the MoFi Stereo SACD remaster of Miles Davis' Nefertiti http://www.hraudio.net/showmusic.php?title=10810#reviews

Post by Lute November 22, 2015 (2095 of 2132)
Love Forever Changes is a terrific one from MoFi.

Let us know what you think of Primus. I listened to some samples. It'd be great if the surround mix were ultra discrete.

Finally saw Guardians of the Galaxy the other day. Fun Scifi flick with a soundtrack that's a blast from the past.

Post by rammiepie November 23, 2015 (2096 of 2132)
Are you in the mood for a VERY fine Supergroup smooth jazz album in state of the art DVD~A discrete MLP 5.1 from Warner Brothers (1991)?

Look no further than "Fourplay" with Bob James, Lee Ritenour, bassist Nathan East and drummer Harvey Mason.

A Sample: http://www.artistdirect.com/video/fourplay-after-the-dance/30229

Post by Marpow November 23, 2015 (2097 of 2132)
rammiepie said:

Unfortunately, 16 bit/44.1 is 'ingrained' in that not ready for primetime format for backwards compatibility with all the billions of existing RBCD players and that is why they had to use blank DVDs for both DVD~A and SACDs (Yes, SACDs use blank DVDs for replication) to achieve higher than RBCD standards.

OK, so that I understand.

RBCD players only play 16bit.

Universal Players, SACD Players, DVD, etc play 24bit.

So if the industry switched to 24bit only almost everybody would need a new player, including in the car.

Downloads that are sold as 24 bit do not need a new player, therefore they can sell with no needed added equipment.

I think the industry should just make the change, they went from records to CD's and everybody embraced it.

Correctamundo?

Post by k-spin November 23, 2015 (2098 of 2132)
Well, isn't that sort of what they tried with SA-CD and DVD-Audio? Only neither really succeeded as a mainstream format.

It's a real shame IMHO. If SA-CD had been promoted/adopted more effectively by the industry when it was launched then it could have replaced CDs. The hybrid discs meant it was backwards compatible with everyone's existing hardware and so no-one would have been forced into upgrading their equipment unless they wanted to.

A real wasted opportunity...

Post by Kutyatest November 23, 2015 (2099 of 2132)
k-spin said:

Well, isn't that sort of what they tried with SA-CD and DVD-Audio? Only neither really succeeded as a mainstream format.

It's a real shame IMHO. If SA-CD had been promoted/adopted more effectively by the industry when it was launched then it could have replaced CDs. The hybrid discs meant it was backwards compatible with everyone's existing hardware and so no-one would have been forced into upgrading their equipment unless they wanted to.

A real wasted opportunity...

Yep - I also think it's a real shame that SACD and DVD-A haven't succeeded as mainstream formats, and I also feel they were poorly promoted. In fact, I can't remember any promotion of the formats whatsoever - although I tend to class myself as an advertising man's worst candidate. By that, I mean I don't think I'm particularly influenced by advertising, and wherever possible, I generally avoid watching commercials on TV.

I agree that the backwards compatibility of most SACDs and DVD-As should have assisted in the mainstream uptake of these formats, but I suppose an awful lot of people out there are not bothered about higher quality audio. I continue to be surprised at the scepticism of some towards hi-res and multi-channel audio, but that's fine - scepticism is healthy - but backwards compatibility should have helped.

Most people are content with listening to audio either merely as background music - and on generally low-end kit. Each to their own - but therein lies a big part of the problem.

Post by rammiepie November 23, 2015 (2100 of 2132)
The music industry has always had a rocky past in relation to their format introductions. RBCD was introduced prematurely to 'rush' product to an unsuspecting public who were tired of poorly pressed vinyl discs........SACD was also hastily introduced.......early discs would ONLY play on an SACD compatible player and lacked a multichannel option........DVD~A ONLY played in a DVD~A player and was in no way compatible with RBCD playback....which is why we had the dualdisc which had its own controversy (the thickness of the disc precluded the CD side from being played in MANY players).

After the VHS vs. BETA format war, the movie industry settled on ONE format: DVD which has been the most successful launch in recent memory. And then Blu Ray which has had its own modicum of success but in no way as dramatic as DVD (perhaps collectors tired of buying the same films first on tape, then laserdisc, then DVD and now BD~V........I personally HAVE been there).

And what I still find perplexingly unsettling:: In 2015 with DVD~A and SACD and now 96/24, 192/24 and DSD 256, etc. downloads.....the record companies are still giving us LOSSY surround discs on DVD~V (DTS and Dolby Digital 5.1) and including a LOSSLESS stereo option.........Why not give us the entire album in LOSSLESS 96/24 5.1 surround????????????? For instance, the upcoming and VERY pricey Fleetwood Mac TUSK boxset contains a LOSSY 5.1 remaster of the entire album when a FULL MLP 96/24 remaster DOES exist.....PREPOSTEROUS, IMHO!

Another wrinkle for the SACD crowd: Anything above DSD 64 (DSD 128/256) is only available via computer/outboard DACs and is NOT compatible with existing SACD player technology so if you want to experience DSD's highest playback option, MOST current players are NOW obsolete and those pricey SACD players that can play it lack a multichannel option.

Supposedly, the new UHD Video Players are backwards compatible with BD~V but EXCLUDE a 3D option (hope I'm Wrong). 3D which currently does suffer crosstalk problems, etc., IMHO, would GREATLY benefit from the new 4K technology so what's that all about??????

The Rolling Stones who once penned the song "You Can't Always Get What You Want" were prescient in regards to the Music Industry which has had a LONG history of planned obsolesence which shows NO signs of abating....or, so it seems.

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