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Discussion: Mahler: Symphony No. 2 - Neumann

Posts: 7

Post by Luukas February 11, 2015 (1 of 7)
I cannot find any track lists or reviews.

Post by Simon V. February 11, 2015 (2 of 7)
If this is a super-audio reissue of Neumann's old Supraphon recording, you'll be able to find reviews (of the performance at least) from the time of its first release.

Post by Claude February 11, 2015 (3 of 7)
The recording was made in Prague in February 1993. Originally released on Canyon Classics CD.

You can hear the 5th movement on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8hvqubk2Xw

The 1980 Supraphon recording is also available on SACD: Mahler: Symphony No. 2 - Neumann

Post by krisjan February 11, 2015 (4 of 7)
I have the Canyon Classics RBCD of this performance. It is a good performance in decent RBCD sound. Why this would be issued on SACD is beyond me - other than to rake in some money from unsuspecting hi-rez enthusiasts. There is nothing "hi-rez" about the master and putting it on an SACD won't make it so.

Post by Chris from Lafayette February 11, 2015 (5 of 7)
krisjan said:

I have the Canyon Classics RBCD of this performance. It is a good performance in decent RBCD sound. Why this would be issued on SACD is beyond me - other than to rake in some money from unsuspecting hi-rez enthusiasts. There is nothing "hi-rez" about the master and putting it on an SACD won't make it so.

I think Neumann was a great conductor, but the engineering he received was extremely variable. I have both the Canyon Classics and Supraphon RBCD's and much prefer the (later) Canyon Classics performance, not least because it avoids some moments of shaky playing heard in the earlier recording. The Canyon release is well recorded (certainly better than the Supraphon) even though it's only CD-quality resolution. I'm suspecting that the reason Canyon/Exton reissued the performance on SACD was because, at the time, they wanted to make the performance available in multi-channel, even though they later reversed their policy in favor of stereo-only releases.

Post by krisjan February 11, 2015 (6 of 7)
Chris from Lafayette said:

I think Neumann was a great conductor...

...I'm suspecting that the reason Canyon/Exton reissued the performance on SACD was because, at the time, they wanted to make the performance available in multi-channel, even though they later reversed their policy in favor of stereo-only releases.

Yes, I agree with your sentiments about Neumann.

Since this recording is from the early 90's, I'm surprised that it was recorded in multi-channel. Do you know for a fact that it is a m-ch master? If so, then I can see why they would reissue it as an SACD - I have a tendency to forget about m-ch as the main advantage of SACD since I always listen to the stereo layer :-)

Post by tailspn February 11, 2015 (7 of 7)
krisjan said:

Since this recording is from the early 90's, I'm surprised that it was recorded in multi-channel.

If Exton, or anyone has access to the original session takes, most any large orchestra recording from the 70's on can be mastered into multichannel. It was very common to put up a pair of ambience mics, and even if the recording was intended to be stereo only, a center channel is easily faked by panning.

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