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Discussion: Shostakovich: Symphonies Nos. 5 & 9 - Kreizberg

Posts: 10

Post by fafnir April 15, 2007 (1 of 10)
Any performer of the finale of the Fifth has to make a basic decision: should it be played as a triumph (Bernstein, for example) or should it be played as a mockery of triumph. Kreizberg has obviously chosen the latter interpretation, and has done so in a fantastic recording, both in terms of sound and performance.

Kreizberg brings out the banality of the material and the deliberate crudity of its presentation to a greater extent than I have ever experienced. I have never admired Shostakovich's vision more, and conversely been more happy when the score thudded to a conclusion.

This recording, while highly recommended, is unusual and thought-provoking.

Post by Windsurfer April 15, 2007 (2 of 10)
Sometimes when something is unexpected and not as much fun as one initially thinks one might have liked, it is a place for growth! Again, you have hit the nail on the head! (you have a good track record in that respect IMO)

Post by Beagle April 15, 2007 (3 of 10)
If you want to dig deeper, brush up on your Morse code, and listen to that little tune: S... T... A...

In the mid-sixties, I took a course from one of Shostakovich's host/interpreters. And he said that Dmitri said that "the point where the tune stalls and breaks up is the fiddler at a wedding, so drunk he can't remember how the tune goes." The wink-wink, nudge-nudge implication is that Stalin was too intoxicated with his power, and forgot what the revolution was all about -- or something like that. Pretty brazen stuff to stick into a symphony which is supposed to put you back in good graces with the powers that be.

Post by threerandot April 17, 2007 (4 of 10)
Got this from amazon.ca today. Will be listening to this tonight.

Shawn

Post by threerandot April 22, 2007 (5 of 10)
I just wish the sound had been a little smoother in the climaxes although there is no lack of detail.

Post by Johnno April 22, 2007 (6 of 10)
Firstly, I think the ninth symphony gets a superb performance. I'm rather less happy about the fifth -- principally because of the way Kreizberg treats the END of the finale, which is the slowest I have ever heard it taken. It seems to go on for ever (a slight exaggeration, maybe). What a contrast to Bernstein! The scherzo and slow movement are, on the other hand, very well performed. There are some questionable tempi changes in the first movement but I can accept them.

The playing and recording are both excellent

Post by terence June 5, 2007 (7 of 10)
endorse the comments re. the 9th. - very fine performance and recording.

the 5th awaits me....

Post by seth June 5, 2007 (8 of 10)
Johnno said:

Firstly, I think the ninth symphony gets a superb performance. I'm rather less happy about the fifth -- principally because of the way Kreizberg treats the END of the finale, which is the slowest I have ever heard it taken. It seems to go on for ever (a slight exaggeration, maybe). What a contrast to Bernstein! The scherzo and slow movement are, on the other hand, very well performed. There are some questionable tempi changes in the first movement but I can accept them.

The playing and recording are both excellent

Agreed. Another thing I did not like about the 5th was that he rushed through the march section in the first movement.

Post by pelley June 5, 2007 (9 of 10)
I'm rather less happy about the fifth -- principally because of the way Kreizberg treats the END of the finale, which is the slowest I have ever heard it taken. It seems to go on for ever (a slight exaggeration, maybe). What a contrast to Bernstein!
Is the end even slower than the LSO Live (Rostropovich)? That seems not possible!

Post by pelley October 1, 2007 (10 of 10)
pelley said:

Is the end even slower than the LSO Live (Rostropovich)? That seems not possible!

Well to answer my own question, it is slower. But only by 1 second! They seem to take a different approach despite the near-identical length.

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