Thread: Is the SONY US SACD pressing plant slated to re~open its doors?

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Post by DownUnder July 31, 2010 (21 of 188)
Tingman said:

One of the reasons the Rolling Stones catalog failed was there was no way (until you learned to look only for digipaks) to know that it was an SACD or not. I bought my first SACD player in 2007 and wanted to pick up the Stones catalog on SACD. I ran to the store to buy Let It Bleed, which noted that it was a "DSD Remaster", only to find it was a RBCD. I know I came to the SACD party pretty late, but I did come to it, and by then the Stones catalog wasn't available any longer. I would contend the failure of the Stones catalog on SACD is an example of profoundly inept marketing, since there was absolutely nothing on the package denoting that it was an SACD.

The Rolling Stones SACD catalog hasn't failed sales wise, as some people here suggest. The reason ABCO stopped issuing RS SACD's is purely because Sony drastically reduced SACD pressing output from its US pressing plants at that time.

Regards

Post by Tingman July 31, 2010 (22 of 188)
Be that as it may, ABKCO had a number of interesting SACD titles available, most of which were not identified as such - the only way to know is whether the product is in a digipak or a jewel box. I contend sales might be better if people could actually tell what they are buying.

Post by sibelius2 July 31, 2010 (23 of 188)
ABKCO deliberately issued 'stealth' SACDs - with no logo or other indication - in an effort to BOOST sales. At the time of initial release, it was feared that seeing the SACD logo on the packaging would cause:

1) record stores to shelve them in the SACD section of the store, where the majority of customers would never see them, or

2) customers to believe that the disc would not play on the equipment they owned, or

3) customers to think the were being overcharged for features they would never use.

The validity of this plan became a moot point once SACD production in North America came to an end, as ABKCO decided that they had no hope of turning a profit on discs which had to be imported from Germany or Japan. The fact that they retained the same UPC numbers on the Redbook pressings as had already been used on SACD pressings is a most unfortunate decision, as it will forever cause confusion over whether or not a particular copy of a disc is RBCD or SACD.

Post by audioholik August 1, 2010 (24 of 188)
sibelius2 said:

ABKCO deliberately issued 'stealth' SACDs - with no logo or other indication - in an effort to BOOST sales. At the time of initial release, it was feared that seeing the SACD logo on the packaging would cause:

1) record stores to shelve them in the SACD section of the store, where the majority of customers would never see them, or

2) customers to believe that the disc would not play on the equipment they owned, or

3) customers to think the were being overcharged for features they would never use. disc is RBCD or SACD.

sibelius2,

The Pink Floyd SACD had the proper "hybrid SACD" information on the cover and it has been the best selling SACD to date (1600000 copies sold).

Post by zeus August 1, 2010 (25 of 188)
audioholik said:

The Pink Floyd SACD had the proper "hybrid SACD" information on the cover and it has been the best selling SACD to date (1600000 copies sold).

The Stones releases predate that of Pink Floyd. At the time the format hadn't proven itself, and there were concerns as to its compatibility with then existing players, computer drives etc. The Stones releases were a huge success (volume, feedback etc) and forged acceptance of the format in the market ... though not necessarily its economic viability.

Post by Tingman August 1, 2010 (26 of 188)
Thanks for the info and insights; I find this fascinating. This format should be far more popular than it is.

Post by audioholik August 1, 2010 (27 of 188)
Tingman said:

This format should be far more popular than it is.

I agree, the question is, what Super Audio Center can do to make it more popular?

any ideas?

Post by sordidman August 2, 2010 (28 of 188)
Tingman said:
is an example of profoundly inept marketing, since there was absolutely nothing on the package denoting that it was an SACD.

Hiya,

I couldn't agree with you more, - and that is my point precisely. With all of the marketing "talent" (sic) out there, - you'd think that they'd be able to successfully promote the disc in a way that supports SACD and introduces it properly to the potential new recruits.

Post by dobyblue August 3, 2010 (29 of 188)
Terre Haute isn't idle or dormant, it's probably the busiest pressing plant in the western hemisphere.

If they need to press SACD's, they can do so whenever need be.

Post by tailspn August 3, 2010 (30 of 188)
dobyblue said:

Terre Haute isn't idle or dormant, it's probably the busiest pressing plant in the western hemisphere.

If they need to press SACD's, they can do so whenever need be.

Absolutly correct!

http://www.sonydadc.com/opencms/opencms/sites/am/Products/Super_Audio_CD/

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