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Discussion: The Complete Beethoven Piano Sonatas - Peter Takács

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Post by current93 October 3, 2014 (101 of 130)
samayoeruorandajin said:

I imagine your location (Russia) may have had something to do with the condition as shipping to that location would probably make it even worse.

Of course, you are right. Russia itself is one to blame for broken boxes with contents flown away from the glue within factory sealed slipcase.
BTW it was delivered to my home by i-Parcel for some $28. The Amazon and carrier package was 1st class, not a hint of problems inside.

Post by samayoeruorandajin October 3, 2014 (102 of 130)
current93 said:

Of course, you are right. Russia itself is one to blame for broken boxes with contents flown away from the glue within factory sealed slipcase.
BTW it was delivered to my home by i-Parcel for some $28. The Amazon and carrier package was 1st class, not a hint of problems inside.

Look, I was suggesting a possible reason. Who knows what the issue is with your copy. No one else complained about the packaging before so yours is a curious complaint.

Post by sambaserge October 4, 2014 (103 of 130)
current93 said:

Of course, you are right. Russia itself is one to blame for broken boxes with contents flown away from the glue within factory sealed slipcase.

You sound like Obama!!

Post by breydon_music October 4, 2014 (104 of 130)
current93 said:

Awful packaging! Of Chinese (Hong Kong) quality. My copy arrived today from Am@#$%on. Both boxes (discs and notes) are completely damaged from glue, which is defective itself. Some discs suffer severely, I'm even afraid to play them.
Beware.

In fairness, I have to say I bought mine when the set was first released and the booklet fell to pieces the first time I opened it - poor/inappropriate glue just like cheap paperbacks of yore. However ... great music!

Post by current93 October 4, 2014 (105 of 130)
breydon_music said:

In fairness, I have to say I bought mine when the set was first released and the booklet fell to pieces the first time I opened it - poor/inappropriate glue just like cheap paperbacks of yore. However ... great music!

I've experienced exactly the same! Not only booklet in my set, but the discs folders as well.
Agreed, great music and interpretation!

Post by nucaleena October 4, 2014 (106 of 130)
I bought my set in the first week of release in the States. Posted to Oz across the Pacific and turned up in excellent condition which it has retained despite much playing and handling. Booklet and disc envelopes are still fine. And everything else about the set is terrific too.

Post by Astral October 4, 2014 (107 of 130)
AmonRa said:

Well said, considering that I live in the "old world"...

You two guys should get a room.

You can even bring your own shovels.

Post by Windsurfer October 5, 2014 (108 of 130)
Polly Nomial said:

Possibly but Brautigam takes one hell of a beating - he's transformed my opinion of both the fortepiano and how Beethoven's music sounds.

An area where we most emphatically disagree. I really detest the sound of "fortepiano". What I really enjoy are the Caro Mitis discs of Igor Tchetuev and his magnificent Fazioli piano - now THERE is a sound!

Post by undertone October 5, 2014 (109 of 130)
Those who are considering the purchase of the Takács set, but wary of the charges of defective packaging posted recently, would be well advised to read Geohominid's detailed description of the packaging. An excerpt:

"Housed in a robust slip case is a 144-page hard-back "Notes" booklet, with 11 discs in stiff card sleeves securely bound in a similar chunky hard-back book... Made in heavyweight high-quality coated paper, the fold-out should survive use for some time... The "Notes" booklet is also made with very high-quality paper, well laid-out and printed in easily readable text."

I've owned the set since the first year of issue. Here are some further details about the packaging.

The Notes booklet consists of stitched 'parts' folded and sewn together and glued front and back to a heavy coated paper sleeve. The coated paper sleeve is glued only to the front binder cover, not to the back cover (which houses the the timeline in a wide pocket). The booklet therefore is attached to the binder only at a very narrow point along its own front page.

It is conceivable that in some copies of the set, the narrow line of glue holding the booklet's front page to the outer cover may separate. It should be no great task to reattach the booklet to the outer cover with a suitable adhesive.

[Addendum] This potential problem could have been avoided if the interior booklet had not been glued in place, but inserted into a pouch mounted on the inside of the front binder -- the same method used to house the timeline.

The discs binder resembles an LP album binder. Individual discs are held in lightweight cardboard sleeves that appear to be acid-free; I have found no discoloration while the set has been in my collection. The sleeves are folded internally and glued firmly in place. All of the sleeves in the set are intact, and no glue or cardboard material has ever transferred onto the surface of the front or back of any of the discs.

Post by Iain October 5, 2014 (110 of 130)
Thanks for that information, undertone. Quite helpful.

Also, Geohominid has added to his review:
"ADDENDUM
For a splendid introduction to the Beethoven Piano Sonatas, Andras Schiff has recorded a series of lectures outlining each sonata for his London concerts of the 32. His urbane, often humorous approach is delightful, and he provides many insights and contextual information from the pianist's point of view, illustrated on the piano. Download free from the Guardian Newspaper at http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2006/nov/01/andrasschiffonbeethoven.
JM"

... for those unfamiliar with these works. Thanks Geo.

BTW, how does the Bösendorfer Imperial sound on these works? Does it have the tonal quality and resonance of a Bösendorfer Imperial or something else, altogether different?

I've noted elsewhere that the actual sound of the recorded physical piano is highly variable on many recordings.

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